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re: Another one... Pit Bull Kills 3-year-old
Posted on 4/1/14 at 1:49 pm to dewster
Posted on 4/1/14 at 1:49 pm to dewster
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There's another story of a sudden attack of a toddler in Texas yesterday by a pit bull. The mother took the child into the bathroom and called the police. It should be no surprise that the police were more than happy to shoot the dog.
Wouldn't you be "more than happy" to shoot a dog that had just tried to kill a 2 year old child?
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 1:49 pm to SabiDojo
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I never said my children are unsupervised around my dog.
I was agreeing with you and building off of your post.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 1:50 pm to ATXTiger1
Oh. My apologies. Carry on.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:32 pm to SuperSaint
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or just maybe some people are responsible dog owners that get their dogs fixed, don't breed them to fight where they end up riddled with inbreeding, they socialize the dogs, they don't keep them on chains..... Just maybe some people take some responsibility for once. Maybe some people understand before getting the breed that there may need to be special precautions taken because of the strength of the dog and also because of the preconceived notions that some have about the dog.
I believe there is enough empirical and anecdotal evidence to prove that these dogs are prone to act independent of their ownership. They have a predisposition to attack, and physically are capable of causing great bodily harm (which is what separates them from the chihuahua).
Genetic predispositions are a strange thing. Water dogs swim. Retrieving dogs retrieve. Guard dogs guard. Fighting dogs fight. Most breeds display these characteristics when they're only weeks old. Nature is independent of ownership.
There is a reason we don't have Golden Retriever dog fighting rings (although that would probably be adorable with all of the tail wagging and licking).
This post was edited on 4/1/14 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:35 pm to PapiGogo
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I believe there is enough empirical and anecdotal evidence to prove that these dogs are prone to act independent of their ownership. They have a predisposition to attack, and physically are capable of causing great bodily harm (which is what separates them from the chihuahua).
Genetic predispositions are a strange thing. Water dogs swim. Retrieving dogs retrieve. Guard dogs guard. Fighting dogs fight. Most breeds display these characteristics when they're only weeks old. Nature is independent of ownership.
No... only poor trashy pits attack the poor trashy kids and elderly people who breed them to fight.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:42 pm to PapiGogo
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I believe there is enough empirical and anecdotal evidence to prove that these dogs are prone to act independent of their ownership. They have a predisposition to attack,
Let's just ignore the ASPCA and American Veterinarian Medical Association who have actually done studies on the breed and found that pit bulls are not any more genetically predisposed or likely to attack than other breeds. Instead let's react to sensationalized news stories that usually only make headlines if the dog involved is a pit bull.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:44 pm to 3rdRowTailgater
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Instead let's react to sensationalized news stories that usually only make headlines if the dog involved is a pit bull.
And, there it is.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:46 pm to 3rdRowTailgater
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Let's just ignore the ASPCA and American Veterinarian Medical Association who have actually done studies on the breed and found that pit bulls are not any more genetically predisposed or likely to attack than other breeds. Instead let's react to sensationalized news stories that usually only make headlines if the dog involved is a pit bull.
I could see that as being true
But you have to admit that a pitbull attack =/= a golden retriever attack
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:47 pm to Croacka
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But you have to admit that a pitbull attack =/= a golden retriever attack
The pit bull attacks get reported because their attacks are more likely to kill than most others. Yes, I realize other dogs can kill too. But I'll take my chances against a golden retriever over a pit bull any day.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:49 pm to 3rdRowTailgater
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Let's just ignore the ASPCA and American Veterinarian Medical Association who have actually done studies on the breed and found that pit bulls are not any more genetically predisposed or likely to attack than other breeds. Instead let's react to sensationalized news stories that usually only make headlines if the dog involved is a pit bull.
So we should just ignore the fact that year after year Pits account for usually about 70% of all fatal dog attacks, far more than all other breeds combined, and usually the victims are small children? Gotcha.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:49 pm to SaintEB
I'm not disagreeing
Which is why I am dumbfounded that people are willing to own potentially deadly animals, and raise kids around them
Which is why I am dumbfounded that people are willing to own potentially deadly animals, and raise kids around them
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:49 pm to Croacka
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But you have to admit that a pitbull attack =/= a golden retriever attack
That's quite possibly true, but if trashy people started buying up goldens and treated them like shite and didn't properly care or train them we'd surely see an increase in golden attacks. This pit bull phenomenon didn't start until the mid to late 1990's. We've seen this before with Rottweilers, German Shepherds and Dobermans in the past.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:52 pm to Darth_Vader
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So we should just ignore the fact that year after year Pits account for usually about 70% of all fatal dog attacks, far more than all other breeds combined, and usually the victims are small children? Gotcha.
Let's just outlaw all big dogs that could possibly cause harm to children.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:52 pm to 3rdRowTailgater
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sensationalized news stories that usually only make headlines if the dog involved is a pit bull
LINK
Here is an article where a lab killed a woman. Notice how they say 'dog' in the headlines instead of listing the breed, and the breed is only mentioned at the end of the article. It was even reported as being a pit bull at first because the media just assumed it was a pit bull since it killed someone. I mean we all know labs and goldens are perfect dogs, right?
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:53 pm to 3rdRowTailgater
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Let's just outlaw all big dogs that could possibly cause harm to children.
Why not. They already outlaw having big cats in your home.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:57 pm to Croacka
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Which is why I am dumbfounded that people are willing to own potentially deadly animals, and raise kids around them
Why stop of Pitbulls? I'm sure Hyenas make great family pets....
And they're great with kids....
Look a that cwuet wittle baby....
Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:00 pm to ATXTiger1
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the media just assumed it was a pit bull since it killed someone.
Seeing how they are responsible for the vast majority of all fatal dog attacks, I can understand how they jumped to that conclusion.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:02 pm to 3rdRowTailgater
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Let's just outlaw all big dogs that could possibly cause harm to children.
It is my belief that over the years and years of pet ownership, there is an understanding of what breeds have aggressive tendencies. They are trouble. These, along with pits, shouldn't be in households with children. You, I, or anyone, cannot pretend that a nip/bite from a smaller, less aggressive dog, is the same as a mauling. I understand you love your dog, you love the breed, and your belief is such. But it is blind ignorance to believe these bigger, aggressive dogs aren't a huge problem and aren't more deadly.
This post was edited on 4/1/14 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:05 pm to GEAUXmedic
anyone who cannot plainly see that the breed was been to be violent and is extremely dangerous is frankly an idiot...yes, even some pit bulls can be raised to be a gentle dog, but it is coded in their genetics to attack and kill..how anyone bothers to argue that indisputable fact must be a genetic creation of Isuzu Joe and Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf.. 
Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:08 pm to Ole War Skule
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it is coded in their genetics to attack and kill
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