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re: Another one... Pit Bull Kills 3-year-old
Posted on 4/1/14 at 4:03 pm to Pettifogger
Posted on 4/1/14 at 4:03 pm to Pettifogger
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I was pretty worried when I first saw how she acted through the fence, but once you're with her, she's docile as can be.
What's the last thing a redneck says?
This post was edited on 4/1/14 at 4:04 pm
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 4:04 pm to SuperSaint
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The media has you
HOOK. Line. Sinker
Maybe I need to borrow your tinfoil hat.
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All too often?? Well considering the same line of dogs have been in my family for almost 50 years since my mom was a child, I take my dog to go visit and play with his grand father and great grandfather that is still around, and not once In the entire 50 years of owning probably 20-30 dogs not ONCE has ONE single dog of my family had even ONE even MINOR incident of even a NIP that I am aware of. But but but these dogs can just turn at the blink of an eye for no reason and kill you and your whole family because it woke up that day wanting to....
All too often...
You're comparing the small number of pits you've been around and trying to use them to trump all the fatal attacks that take place year after year.
Set your emotion on this subject aside and look at it logically.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 4:05 pm to MBclass83
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What's the last thing a redneck says?
Who dat?
Posted on 4/1/14 at 4:05 pm to iwasthere
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I am just using some of y'alls logic.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 4:06 pm to Darth_Vader
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You're comparing the small number of pits you've been around and trying to use them to trump all the fatal attacks that take place year after year. Set your emotion on this subject aside and look at it logically.
You are only comparing the pits listed on the dogbite site to base your whole opinion on and trying to trump all the good pits. That only makes a minuscule percentage of pits.
This post was edited on 4/1/14 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 4/1/14 at 4:08 pm to ATXTiger1
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I never said that labs kill 5 kids yearly. I was just trying to figure out what your threshold was. Labs usually kill at least 1 person per year. Is that acceptable for the perfect family dog?
Fatal dog attacks happen. It's a sad part of life. but as stats show, the number of fatal dog attacks is vastly inflated year in and year out due to one breed.
So you want a threshold of what's acceptable? OK, I'll be your huckleberry, lets say less than 5 per year. Once a breed reaches 5 per year to me it's highly dangerous.
So what's your threshold to when a breed becomes too dangerous?
Posted on 4/1/14 at 4:11 pm to iwasthere
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iwasthere
Once you started blathering about how it was not "necessary" to put your kids in the car to go shopping in some absurd comparison to the dangers of cars and pitbulls, you lost all credibility with me. Shooo
Posted on 4/1/14 at 4:12 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:you're fricking retarded if you don't think the media doesn't love telling stories of "pit bull" attacks when half the time they don't even know what kind of dog it is.
Yes, it's all a media conspiracy against pitbulls and their owners.
It's because a bunch of mom jean wearing pansies eat it up
Like I said you should send in your check for the cause.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 4:12 pm to Darth_Vader
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Once you started blathering about how it was not "necessary" to put your kids in the car to go shopping in some absurd comparison to the dangers of cars and pitbulls, you lost all credibility with me. Shooo
You're giving him too much credit. He lost credibility long before then.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 4:13 pm to Darth_Vader
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So you want a threshold of what's acceptable? OK, I'll be your huckleberry, lets say less than 5 per year. Once a breed reaches 5 per year to me it's highly dangerous.
I dunno. I think there may be an argument to be made for determining percentages.
If 1 black lab attack (fatal) represents 1% of their population and 5 pit attacks (fatal) represents 1% of their population then is their a difference?
You can argue that the numbers don't matter....but someone could surely argue the opposite.
Disclaimer: I don't have those statistics.
ETA: I will argue, however, that the percentages would help or hurt any argument made that a breed is inherintly (sp?) more aggressive than another.
This post was edited on 4/1/14 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 4/1/14 at 4:14 pm to SuperSaint
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you're fricking retarded if you don't think the media doesn't love telling stories of "pit bull" attacks when half the time they don't even know what kind of dog it is.
It's because a bunch of mom jean wearing pansies eat it up
Like I said you should send in your check for the cause.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 4:15 pm to SuperSaint
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you're fricking retarded if you don't think the media doesn't love telling stories of "pit bull" attacks when half the time they don't even know what kind of dog it is.
There was a picture posted in the link. Was this dog not a pit bull?
Posted on 4/1/14 at 4:16 pm to DeathValley85
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f 1 black lab attack (fatal) represents 1% of their population and 5 pit attacks (fatal) represents 1% of their population then is their a difference?
These numbers would be reversed. There are far more labs than there are pit bulls.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 4:17 pm to UpToPar
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There was a picture posted in the link. Was this dog not a pit bull?
This is not the dog you're looking for.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 4:18 pm to UpToPar
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There are far more labs than there are pit bulls.
correct. labs have been #1 breed for many years...pits rank in the 50's
Posted on 4/1/14 at 4:19 pm to 3rdRowTailgater
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We've seen this before with Rottweilers, German Shepherds and Dobermans in the past.
You've seen the perceptions that those breeds were dangerous in the past (primarily because of Hollywood), but no other breed has had the history of killing like that of the modern "pit bull". I put "pit bull" in quotes, because most sources that indicate the Pit Bull is not dangerous usually talk about the American Pit Bull Terrier. That's not the same dog we see in the maulings and killings.
The modern pit bull has been bred to fight and kill. Non-aggressive dogs are killed or used as bait dogs, while the more aggressive are bred. These more aggressive dogs invariably find their ways into peoples homes, and unfortunately find their way into the news (for all of the wrong reasons).
I just have a hard time rationalizing the argument that these attacks are caused by bad ownership. Maybe in a hyperbolic sense because good owners would never own one of these dogs. Golden Retrievers would be friendly regardless; same with Newfoundlands. Nature always rules.
The evidence is clear,though. These dogs are dangerous because of the disposition and physical capabilities.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 4:19 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:If 1 out of every 500 pit bulls killed someone then I would say, yes it is definitely the breed that is inherently aggressive and a danger to people no matter what.
So what's your threshold to when a breed becomes too dangerous
In addition to that, if my dog ever exhibited any aggressive behavior I would never let it around kids. It isn't worth it. But I don't believe that Pit Bulls are ticking time bombs and will 'snap' at any time and kill someone because you stepped on its tail or poked its eye.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 4:20 pm to Topwater Trout
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correct. labs have been #1 breed for many years...pits rank in the 50's
That's just what the media want you to believe. There's more Pits than all other breeds combined. in fact, there is a peaceful and loving pit in every third house in the US.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 4:21 pm to Topwater Trout
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correct. labs have been #1 breed for many years...pits rank in the 50's
Can pit bulls be pure bred - did I say that right? It seems like every dog I've seen in a shelter or for adoption elsewhere was a dang pit mix. Just wondering what the number is if you include those.
Then again, lab mix numbers may equal the pit mix numbers.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 4:21 pm to PapiGogo
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These dogs are dangerous because of the disposition and physical capabilities.
You mother fricker!
You put your kids in a vehicle..don't you! Bastard. You are killing your kids!
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