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Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:32 pm to roadGator
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It's dumb. I won't see any dentist that doesn't work 4.5 days a week at least. I'm not paying for their part time job that gives them a beach condo and golf memberships. That's just me though.
So paying for a full time job that gives them a beach condo and golf membership is okay though?
quote:
It's dumb.
No, no....it is you that is dumb.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:34 pm to ruzil
Let me guess. You are a dentist.
I think it's dumb to see a dentist that only works 3.5 days a week. He or she is overcharging their patients if that's the case.
ETA:
I also don't hire contractors that show up in brand new jacked up $50k pick up trucks. I'm weird I guess.
I think it's dumb to see a dentist that only works 3.5 days a week. He or she is overcharging their patients if that's the case.
ETA:
I also don't hire contractors that show up in brand new jacked up $50k pick up trucks. I'm weird I guess.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:34 pm to roadGator
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Dentists are doctors in their own special way and the industry is comprised of way too many crooks.
Why does no one question their dentist or ask for second opinions?
Somebody didn't get into dental school.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:36 pm to ruzil
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OK captain obvious
That was half of my point. The other half being four generations of my family of doctors teasing the dentists in the family. My daughter decided she wanted to be a dentist at age 5. Years later she is still on track and I couldn't be more proud.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:38 pm to Sparkplug#1
There is a huge difference between doctors and dentists, though.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:39 pm to roadGator
Just because you are some clock puncher, you don't have to take it out on a group that worked hard educating themselves so they could create their own job and work schedule.
Why didn't you do the same? Your attitude is a prime example of reverse snobbery. Perhaps there are other reasons why the average dentist works 32 hours a week doing clinical dentistry. Not only do they produce the dentistry but they are also the managers of the business. Dentistry is also quite physically demanding and a 5 or 6 day per week takes a toll on the body.
Carr to share what you do for a living, I bet you hate it.
Why didn't you do the same? Your attitude is a prime example of reverse snobbery. Perhaps there are other reasons why the average dentist works 32 hours a week doing clinical dentistry. Not only do they produce the dentistry but they are also the managers of the business. Dentistry is also quite physically demanding and a 5 or 6 day per week takes a toll on the body.
Carr to share what you do for a living, I bet you hate it.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:46 pm to Scruffy
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Someone is an upset PT.
Only time Mrs. Golfer mentions that she's a Doctor is when she's trying to one up me...otherwise she's your PT and has only worn the white coat they gave her for the class photo.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:47 pm to ruzil
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. Dentistry is also quite physically demanding and a 5 or 6 day per week takes a toll on the body. Carr to share what you do for a living, I bet you hate it.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:53 pm to lsu xman
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late to the thread, but what about 911moto? Does he refer to himself(non-working dentist) as a Dr?
I don't walk around calling myself "Dr." or asking anyone else to, but yes, I'm still a Dr. I still do the required amount of continuing education and still pay the fees to keep my license current. If the hand of God heals me today, I can be working in an office tomorrow. Though since I'm an atheist, I'm not expecting the hand of God to heal me. For the record, at times I've worked 5 days a week, at times 4. Money was more important in my younger days, but as I got older I was happy with what I earned in 4 days. I valued the extra family time more than I valued the extra money of the fifth work day. And I really could not care less whether anyone considers a dentist a "real" doctor. It doesn't change my income one cent.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:54 pm to Sparkplug#1
You obviously don't understand sarcasm. The physically demanding part is in lifting all those fat stacks pilfered off unsuspecting patients and toting it back home to your castle. 
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:57 pm to ruzil
Posted on 1/14/15 at 6:04 pm to ruzil
I do just fine. I work hard, have a very flexible schedule, decide when and where I travel and I love it 85% of the time, give or take.
You can work two days a week if you want. That's your choice. I have a choice about which dentist I see. They work more than 3.5 days a week. There are other qualifiers like not trying to blatantly steal from me.
I choose not to be charged more than I should be charged.
I can't wait for comparable fee data to be available to the public. It's happened with hospitals and is happening with physicians. It's coming for dentists. I hope to be on the cutting edge of that.
You can work two days a week if you want. That's your choice. I have a choice about which dentist I see. They work more than 3.5 days a week. There are other qualifiers like not trying to blatantly steal from me.
I choose not to be charged more than I should be charged.
I can't wait for comparable fee data to be available to the public. It's happened with hospitals and is happening with physicians. It's coming for dentists. I hope to be on the cutting edge of that.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 1/14/15 at 6:09 pm to roadGator
You're making an assumption that dentists who work less than 5 days do so because they charge higher fees to make 5 days worth of money in 4 days. That reasoning is flawed. In many cases, the guys working 4 days are the ones who don't put money as their top priority. I worked 5 days when I was more money hungry. Yet my fees were in the bottom quarter percentile when I worked 4 days and when I worked 5. Also, people tend to work fewer days after they are well established. One generalization would be that dentists who work 5 days tend to be the younger, inexperienced dentists who are more money hungry.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 6:11 pm to Berry McCaulkiner
on what planet?
not even close.
and neither is a podiatrist
not even close.
and neither is a podiatrist
Posted on 1/14/15 at 6:12 pm to TigerRad
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I have taught and tutored in physiology at both med and dental school in NO, and I promise you, the basic science courses for dental are not as in-depth or difficult as they are for med students. Not close really.
Similarly, my visiting path professor said last week that he teaches path at a PA school in Wisconsin, and he gave the example of general path lectures lasting 4 days there versus about 3 weeks here. So, same topics, but considerably greater detail in med school.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 6:15 pm to 911Moto
There are exceptions of course. I'm talking about the guys that are charging more so they don't have to work more.
I'm pretty familiar with fee data and the trend in hours worked. I'm also familiar with the influence the ADA had on closing dental schools and limiting the number of graduates so that fees and income wouldn't recede. I'm also familiar with dentists committing fraud and strong arming patients. This has caused a backlash and has served as part of the reason that dentistry is trending to the corporate model.
Not all dentists are bad. Not all charge too much. It is amazing to me that folks rarely question their dentists and ask for second opinions. For those that choose to provide discounts through relationships with insurance companies, balance billing is an issue still. The reason for the fraud and balance billing is that the amounts, individually, are too small for a lawyer to care about and the State doesn't have the manpower to chase dentists down. There's no one to protect the patient.
I'm pretty familiar with fee data and the trend in hours worked. I'm also familiar with the influence the ADA had on closing dental schools and limiting the number of graduates so that fees and income wouldn't recede. I'm also familiar with dentists committing fraud and strong arming patients. This has caused a backlash and has served as part of the reason that dentistry is trending to the corporate model.
Not all dentists are bad. Not all charge too much. It is amazing to me that folks rarely question their dentists and ask for second opinions. For those that choose to provide discounts through relationships with insurance companies, balance billing is an issue still. The reason for the fraud and balance billing is that the amounts, individually, are too small for a lawyer to care about and the State doesn't have the manpower to chase dentists down. There's no one to protect the patient.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 6:18 pm to roadGator
I'm not a huge fan of dentists, but getting on them for 3 1/2 days a week is flawed logic.
They are usually well-establised and can book their appointments consecutively.
Nothing wrong with that.
ETA : just saw your second post...
Dentists really need to work on their rep.
They are usually well-establised and can book their appointments consecutively.
Nothing wrong with that.
ETA : just saw your second post...
Dentists really need to work on their rep.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 1/14/15 at 6:26 pm to Berry McCaulkiner
Dr Rosenpenis says hi
Posted on 1/14/15 at 6:28 pm to N2cars
It's their choice to work 3.5 days a week. It's my choice to see a different dentist. They are, of course, free to do as they wish.
Their hourly wage is higher than that of a physician. They work less hours and get paid more per hour. My doctor works way harder that most dentists.
There is no harm in any of it. I just know too much.
Their hourly wage is higher than that of a physician. They work less hours and get paid more per hour. My doctor works way harder that most dentists.
There is no harm in any of it. I just know too much.
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