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re: Brutal article about Boeing
Posted on 1/17/24 at 6:55 pm to BayouBaw84
Posted on 1/17/24 at 6:55 pm to BayouBaw84
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As I have said before Boeing would’ve been bankrupt long ago without the aid of the US government.
This absolutely applies to Airbus as well. They get tons of government subsidies and monies. They also recently plead guilty to a major bribery scheme. Paid almost 4 billion in penalties.
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 7:06 pm to Welcome to Tigerland
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Long story short is the Engineers stopped running it and now the Wall Street suits run it and seek to extract every dime they can from the company at the cost of safety, designs and employee retention.
Insert every major oil and gas company
Posted on 1/17/24 at 7:07 pm to RedRifle
If you aren’t first, you’re last.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 7:59 pm to member12
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- The 757 airframe should not have been hastily retired after 9/11. Instead it should have been modified. Then there'd be no reason for a MAX-9 or MAX-10 (or a A321).
Sales were declining for the 757 with airlines interested in smaller aircraft. The Max 8/9/10 all have fewer seats in a two class configuration than any model of the 757.
I guess Boeing could have gone the route they went in the early 60s by shrinking the 707 into the 720, or the later 747SP, but continuing production and development of the 737 Next Generation made far more sense.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 1/17/24 at 9:40 pm to upgrayedd
quote:The problems currently being experienced with the 737 are many years old. These were poor decisions way back before woke.
Yeah, but Boeing hired more handicapped trans women of color so take that, Airbus.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 9:50 pm to Tigeralum2008
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What was amazing to me is the FAA inspectors overseeing the Max were employed/paid directly by Boeing! FAA allowed a policy of delegation where Boeing could employ full time inspectors to go over menial certs. That program morphed into a monster where those minor inspectors evolved to certify entire aircraft rubber stamping every change
I was very surprised to learn about this. I don't see how a Boeing employee can just flip a switch and wear an FAA hat for a while then revert right back to being a Boeing worker.
Beyond that I've worked with Boeing engineers off-an-on for over 30 years. They've all been really good people. But they had their "Diversity Wheel" back in the 90s. It's a company that's lost its way.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 9:52 pm to Big Scrub TX
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These were poor decisions way back before woke.
See my post above. Boeing was woke when woke wasn't cool.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:22 pm to RedRifle
Meanwhile, there are people in Congress that want to move away from SpaceX and use ULA for the moonshot.
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