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re: Do the British still love the queen and monarchy?
Posted on 11/20/20 at 8:43 am to CFC1905
Posted on 11/20/20 at 8:43 am to CFC1905
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The monarchy is self funded, Einstein.
The Sovereign Grant is currently just over $100 mil/yr. That is what the government pays to the Royal Family each year for their "official duties". It is directly linked to the government's revenue from various holdings.
They also pay no taxes on their vast holdings and income.
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Posted on 11/20/20 at 8:48 am to crispyUGA
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If/when the majority of the people in the UK decide that the expense of supporting the monarchy is no longer outweighed by the tradition of the monarch being the face of the state, then either the current MPs will embrace republicanism or be replaced by MPs who run on a republican platform. Parliament would then vote on abolishing the monarchy.
I think it's true that Parliament could pass a law getting rid of the monarchy. Of course, the monarch has to give "assent" to anything that makes it out of Parliament, and presumably that would be the case here as well. So I guess the question is, would a British monarch sign a law removing his or her standing? It would not surprise me if the answer turned out to be "yes." Of course, they'd still have Canada, Jamaica, etc.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 8:50 am to thadcastle
Yes - I lived there for nearly a decade.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 8:52 am to CFC1905
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The monarchy is self funded, Einstein.
You misspelled Epstein.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 8:54 am to UndercoverBryologist
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act as a respectable and dignified Head of State, which, again, won't last when Charles and William ascend to the throne.)
I was actually pretty surprised she didnt have the conversation with Charles she wanted him to abdicate his claim and it pass from the Queen straight to William. It would have been best for all involved, and would have secured the monarchy with the younger generation.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 9:01 am to UndercoverBryologist
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Well, in the case of Charles, it's because he's a clown show.
He is still the worlds best dressed man by a long shot
and has been for about 40 years
Posted on 11/20/20 at 9:03 am to crispyUGA
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The Sovereign Grant is currently just over $100 mil/yr. That is what the government pays to the Royal Family each year for their "official duties". It is directly linked to the government's revenue from various holdings.
The sovereign grant is a percentage of revenue from the crown estate. The crown estate was surrendered to the treasury in 1760.
As of 2012, the sovereign grant was set at 15% of revenue from the crown estate, until it was temporarily increased to 25% to fund the renovation of Buckingham Palace. After renovations are complete, it will return to 15%.
Since the crown estate was literally given to the state by the monarchy, you can see that not only is the monarchy self funded, it actually makes money for the UK.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 9:04 am to thadcastle
Only if she is leftist. If she is conservative then the kingdom will be canceled. Fact.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 9:30 am to NPComb
the ignorance is strong with this one
Posted on 11/20/20 at 9:41 am to USMEagles
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Of course, they'd still have Canada, Jamaica, etc.
It’s only a matter of time before Jamaica removes the Royal family as their titular head of state. It’s been in the works for years.
Besides that this thread is so full of misconceptions by some as to the funding of the Royal Family as to be ridiculous. It’s really not that complicated to research and read how The Sovereign Grant works after all. Of course in fairness many of my countrymen are also blissfully ignorant on it all so we can’t expect people elsewhere to grasp it either,
Posted on 11/20/20 at 9:45 am to Cymry Teigr
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It’s only a matter of time before Jamaica removes the Royal family as their titular head of state. It’s been in the works for years.
this cracks me up...talk about some ungrateful twits
the only reason that they are who they are is because of England...otherwise, theyre Haiti
Posted on 11/20/20 at 9:48 am to soccerfüt
ENJOY YOUR TWO WEEK BAN
Posted on 11/20/20 at 9:48 am to DomincDecoco
Very true but Windrush has them all up in arms.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 9:56 am to Cymry Teigr
Following the American political model
cutting of the nose to spite the face
cutting of the nose to spite the face
This post was edited on 11/20/20 at 9:58 am
Posted on 11/20/20 at 10:34 am to Cymry Teigr
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It’s only a matter of time before Jamaica removes the Royal family as their titular head of state. It’s been in the works for years.
I looked it up and it seems you're right. I'm a bit surprised by that, but I guess I just don't have a handle on the Jamaican zeitgeist anymore.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 11:01 am to Cymry Teigr
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Cymry Teigr
Do you live in Wales? How did you find your way to a Sports Message Board of a University in Louisiana?
Posted on 11/20/20 at 11:08 am to USMEagles
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think it's true that Parliament could pass a law getting rid of the monarchy. Of course, the monarch has to give "assent" to anything that makes it out of Parliament,
There would first have to be a national referendum, like Brexit. If I were a Republican in the U.K., I would wait until there was a chance for the referendum to pass with 60 percent approval. Then the HoC would follow suit and officially pass the law.
With a supermajority of the public in agreement, the monarch would be obliged to give his/her assent to the abolition of the throne. If the throne can’t even get 40% of the people’s support, it has ceased to have any chance at legitimacy.
Posted on 11/20/20 at 11:08 am to thadcastle
I don't know about now, but when Windsor Castle caught fire in the 90s, the British public basically refused to pay for the repairs. The monarchy had to open Buckingham Palace to paid tours to help pay for the repairs. The Queen also had to agree to start paying income tax.
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