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Posted on 3/22/14 at 9:04 pm to
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10760 posts
Posted on 3/22/14 at 9:04 pm to
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Ding ding ding ding!!!!!! They put checkpoints where they know people can afford to pay the fines, why put them where the person will sit in jail until their court date? It's a fricking sham. You are found guilty before you even have trial, you then have to pay to appeal it.


You guys are crazy. You really think the cops care about the financial situation of the dangerous drivers they take off of the street? They just want to protect the public from all of those dangerous attorney's in the passenger seat.

The cops in this tread are like the libs on the poli board. Just like those can never disagree with their president, these guys cannot ever side against a brother in blue. Protect the brother at all costs.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78092 posts
Posted on 3/22/14 at 9:12 pm to
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You guys are crazy. You really think the cops care about the financial situation of the dangerous drivers they take off of the street?


Um yeah...don't most people feel this way? You don't see DUI checkpoints in 70805 or 70802, do you?
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
5090 posts
Posted on 3/22/14 at 9:39 pm to
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Um yeah...don't most people feel this way? You don't see DUI checkpoints in 70805 or 70802, do you?


If you bothered to read the newspaper ever, you may notice that plenty of DWI's in BR go down around several north BR clubs, same as Tigerland/Downtown area etc. I imagine DWI cops go where the bars are.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 3/22/14 at 9:42 pm to
Where did you work?

Just curious?
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:14 pm to
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you bothered to read the newspaper ever, you may notice that plenty of DWI's in BR go down around several north BR clubs


Lol no
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12567 posts
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:25 pm to
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I don't understand why it's so hard for people to understand. A passenger who gets out of the car without permission during traffic stop is very likely to get arrested and at minimum yelled at.


I think you are missing the deeper issue at play which goes beyond CAN the officer make the move he did there and cuts to the fact that officers are given a huge amount of power and trust and many feel this one was likely taking advantage of that power to get a leg up in a personal grudge more than protecting himself/society

Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:34 pm to
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many feel this one was likely taking advantage of that power to get a leg up in a personal grudge more than protecting himself/society


That is all assumption, though.

When did innocent until proven guilty stop applying to police officers.

The facts are the attorney committed an arrestable violation and was arrested.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31200 posts
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:39 pm to
another fine example of an outstanding cop right here:

Posted by HunhBruh
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
234 posts
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:46 pm to
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With a followup on not writing a summons for battery of a police officer after "fearing for your life" so much as to taze said person, all the while arresting the other party, the one that didnt touch you.



what are you talking about? the trooper, drinking and rolling gold?
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
58492 posts
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:47 pm to
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That is all assumption, though.

When did innocent until proven guilty stop applying to police officers.


It stopped applying to non-officers the moment they started mandatory DUI checkpoints and stop-n-frisk. Those events are the very definition of guilty until proven innocent. In that light, it still amazes me how those are allowed.
Posted by brbowhunter
baton rouge
Member since Apr 2013
851 posts
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:53 pm to
you can never beat the cops unless you have a camera on them 24/7 and they frick up period.

we should start selling body cams for the public so if you do get pulled over you can cut it on and gather your evidence just as they do.

Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:53 pm to
Nothing wrong with "Stop-N-Frisk" when used correctly.

Police make mistakes, so does people in every profession.

That doesn't mean all cops are dirty, rights violating thugs.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76706 posts
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:55 pm to
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Police make mistakes, so does people in every profession.
Police are not like any other profession. Very few, if any others, can violate your rights as a citizen and human being without recourse.

Cops should be held to more strict standards than all other professions combined.

Comparing cops to any other profession is comparing apples to carrots.
This post was edited on 3/22/14 at 10:56 pm
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:57 pm to
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Police are not like any other profession. Very few, if any others, can violate your rights as a citizen and human being without recourse.

Cops should be held to more strict standards than all other professions combined.

Comparing cops to any other profession is comparing apples to carrots.


Once again the wisdom of Scruffy explains it perfectly.
This post was edited on 3/22/14 at 11:10 pm
Posted by Negative Nomad
Hell
Member since Oct 2011
3173 posts
Posted on 3/22/14 at 11:20 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/10/14 at 5:55 pm
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10760 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 12:03 am to
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When did innocent until proven guilty stop applying to police officers.


Does not apply in the court of public opinion.

The cop will never see a courtroom for his actions nor will the public hear if there is any sanctions by the department. All you have is public opinion. Thus, anyone without a bias towards cops would see a DUI cop take the opportunity to get his lick in on someone that has likely beaten him in court more than once.

Assumptions? Of course, but those and hear say are allowed in the court of public opinion. Of course you can object.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10760 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 12:07 am to
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That doesn't mean all cops are dirty, rights violating thugs.


I agree.

However, those that do not speak out against dirty cops are soon to be just as dirty. How can you have any integrity when you will arrest me for a crime but when another cop does it you look the other way?

The system is such that it creates an environment that allows and essentially encourages bad behavior.

I have never seen a tv show where IA was not considered a dirty thing. This may just be a tv thing, or cops may dislike cops that police cops as much as some of us dislikes cops. Why is that, if it is true?
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 12:10 am to
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Of course, but those and hear say are allowed in the court of public opinion. Of course you can object.


Fair enough.

Actually, I only got interested in this thread solely due to the discussion about whether or not the attorney's authority in regards to the driver.
Posted by Negative Nomad
Hell
Member since Oct 2011
3173 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 12:15 am to
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This post was edited on 5/10/14 at 5:56 pm
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 12:21 am to
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However, those that do not speak out against dirty cops are soon to be just as dirty.


I agree

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How can you have any integrity when you will arrest me for a crime but when another cop does it you look the other way?


I agree


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I have never seen a tv show where IA was not considered a dirty thing. This may just be a tv thing,


This is a TV thing.

IA also protects the officer from bullshite complaints and witch hunts by unfair supervisors.

As a detective, if you are dirty, you have more fear of me because my investigations are criminal and can result in arrests. IA investigations are administrative and cannot be used in criminal proceedings.
This post was edited on 3/23/14 at 12:23 am
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