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Posted on 4/27/18 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21818 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 3:16 pm to
Volkswagen released the Atlas this year. It’s similar in size to the Traverse. Might be worth looking at
Posted by LSUweights
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
3586 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 3:17 pm to
I thought about a Grand Cherokee, but I wanted the third row seating for when we travel with extra people (not often)
And folding down the third row gives you a HUGE cargo area...all for the same price or cheaper than a Grand Cherokee
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 3:18 pm
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
6782 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

I thought about a Grand Cherokee, but I wanted the third row seating for when we travel with extra people (not often)
And folding down the third row gives you a HUGE cargo area...all for the same price or cheaper than a Grand Cherokee




The rear cargo area in our Traverse really was huge with the 3rd row folded down. But if they are still going for somewhat close to what the Tahoes are, Tahoe all day out of those two.
Posted by LSUweights
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
3586 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

But if they are still going for somewhat close to what the Tahoes are, Tahoe all day out of those two


Agree, which is why I was looking at them
But for that price on a base model....
Posted by stillplayswithcars
Member since Jan 2018
183 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 3:30 pm to
You are emailing/cross-shopping 3 different vehicles?

Have you even driven any of them yet?

KBB is not reliable for what you are trying to do, which I don't even know what that is.
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
6782 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

Agree, which is why I was looking at them
But for that price on a base model....



You end up with so much more though. And probably better gas mileage. I don't remember what the sticker on our Traverse said, but it sucked arse.
Posted by stillplayswithcars
Member since Jan 2018
183 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

Contacting dealerships withing a 50-75 mile radius of BR using Cars.com
They are not budging on the Tahoe


AH, OK.

Go to Houston for that vehicle.
Posted by stillplayswithcars
Member since Jan 2018
183 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

I tried that yesterday with a used 2017 Traverse
Had just over 19K miles
Wasn't certified due to dents in bumper



It wasn't certified due to the high miles.

Unless it was dirty. (bad CarFax; accidents, what not)
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
87721 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

2018 LS Tahoe
MSRP - $48,745
Invoice - $45,898
Fair Market Range - $44,423-$46,562
Best Offer So Far - $48,350





Here is a LS Tahoe with the same MSRP of $48,745 and this dealership in Houston is offering it for $41,288. That is $7k cheaper than the best offer you have been offered.

LINK







Here is another one located in New Orleans with that exact same MSRP and they are asking $41,940


LINK






That took all of 2 minutes
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 4:19 pm
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
87721 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

2018 XL Ford Explorer
MSRP - $33,135
Invoice - $32,010
Fair Marker Range - $30,705-$32,164
Best Offer So Far - $32,250




Here is one with a MSRP of $33,180 and this dealership in New Orleans is offering it for $26,360...almost $6k cheaper than your best offer


LINK


This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 4:19 pm
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

It wasn't certified due to the high miles.




Ummm....they certify cars with well over 40k, sometimes even 50k+ miles. That wasn't the reason.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

Here is a LS Tahoe with the same MSRP of $48,745 and this dealership in Houston is offering it for $41,288. That is $7k cheaper than the best offer you have been offered.


I may be mistaken, but I believe when he posted those, he was referencing drive-out prices, not just the MSRP/sticker price.
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 4:24 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
137688 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

2018 LS Tahoe
MSRP - $48,745


quote:

Best Offer So Far - $48,350


You're kidding right?
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
87721 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

I may be mistaken, but I believe when he posted those, he was referencing drive-out prices, not just the MSRP/sticker price.



quote:

2018 LS Tahoe
MSRP - $48,745
Invoice - $45,898
Fair Market Range - $44,423-$46,562
Best Offer So Far - $48,350



He listed the Tahoe he was looking at had a MSRP of $48,745 and the best offer he could find was $48,350 off the lot.

The Tahoe I listed had the same exact MSRP of $48,745, so it should have all the same options as the one he was referring to in his OP, but $7k cheaper



I listed 2 different Tahoe's with drive off the lot prices way cheaper than the one he listed and he should use those 2 dealerships as his bargaining chips with any dealer moving forward
Posted by TroyTider
Florida Panhandle
Member since Oct 2009
4016 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

It will be even tighter when we have a second kid in a year or 2


Doubtful
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

He listed the Tahoe he was looking at had a MSRP of $48,745 and the best offer he could find was $48,350 off the lot.

The Tahoe I listed had the same exact MSRP of $48,745, so it should have all the same options as the one he was referring to in his OP, but $7k cheaper


But you're saying $7k cheaper on the base price, not counting tax, tag, title, dealer fees, etc? If I understand correctly, you guys pay 10% tax (sorry about that, that's rough). So that would bring it to right at $46k before the other stuff. Still cheaper, I just think off-the-lot it's not going to be a $7k difference. Or are you stating that the $41k price is their off-the-lot offer?

quote:

he should use those 2 dealerships as his bargaining chips with any dealer moving forward



Absolutely agree.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
55473 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 4:55 pm to
Do your shopping in a large metro market like we have here in Houston. First, you must make a decision on exactly what car you want and that includes the minimum must haves on it. Then send an email to the internet manager at a dealership saying you are shopping for a Tahoe LS blah, blah, blah and are looking for the best OTD (out the door) price. Then copy and paste that email to every dealership in the area making sure that you always give them a local zip code if they ask. This way you have each dealership competing against each other. Do it towards the end of the month and you'll quickly realize who is willing to negotiate and who isn't. But even if you only have one dealership, act like you have many options. Tell them you only want to negotiate online and will come down and buy once everything is wrapped up.

With this method you must get all of your test driving out of the way before you start and know exactly what you want. If you start going back and forth on what kind of accessories or other things you want, they won't think you're a serious buyer that is ready to purchase, plus you can't compare apples to apples with other dealerships. It's the way I've been buying cars the past 15 years and always works great. Good luck...
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 5:01 pm
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 5:00 pm to
quote:

1BIGTigerFan


Everything he says is spot-on. I've been doing it this way as well and it definitely works.
Posted by stillplayswithcars
Member since Jan 2018
183 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 5:04 pm to
No, it was a 2017 with high miles.

Usually, CPO cars will have miles consistent with year. Typically 12K per year and obviously, a clean history.
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