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Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:21 pm to
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He was a failure at everything and now he wanted to be recognized!


In the documentary, some fellow students in his criminal justice program at Desales University in Pennsylvania were interviewed. They worked on some projects with him. They said he was very very smart. Seemed awkward socially and didn't appear to have friends or talk about his personal life. He commuted to the school.

I don't think he wanted to be recognized by name as a murderer, but I do think he would have relished not having been caught.

I think he was starting to lose it before the murders getting into tiffs with professors and making women feel uncomfortable which made him feel rejected.
Posted by WonPercent
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:35 pm to
I think she was half drunk half asleep and all the way scared shitless. She did well to recall an approximate height and the bushy eyebrows. From what's been reported the most likely things he was carrying was Xanas food and his knife. Taking the food is pretty odd tho even by his standards.
Posted by sledgehammer
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:36 pm to
Valid point.
If he was never accepted at WSU and stayed in Pennsylvania for his phd, I still think he would’ve murdered someone sometime in the future. I think the circumstances we’ve talked about sped up that process, and it was a perfect scenario for him being away from home. What do you think?
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 1:46 pm to
I think she may have had some clouded judgment since she went to bed wasted and didn’t get a good long look at him. Like you said, she did a good job given the circumstances. We may never know what the item was.

I was on the main FB page for the Idaho discussion case and multiple people said they saw pictures or read something from the next mornings account of the Jack in the Box bag still being in the kitchen.

I tend to think the bag was still there the following morning because we haven’t heard otherwise. The DoorDash order was critical in the timeline so I feel like we would know by now. Why would he take it?
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 1:59 pm
Posted by WonPercent
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 2:28 pm to
One of the recently received documents said the police believed he'd taken the door dash order. I believe it was referenced in an article in People.
Posted by sledgehammer
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 2:33 pm to
Oh okay that’s new to me. I’ll have to do some sleuthing. I had posted that from People because I thought it was so outlandish such as the theory going around that BK was grooming Kaylee’s dog in the tree line, and that’s why it was for the most part well behaved that morning.

Edit: I don’t know man. Everyone including top contributors on the main FB page says that’s fake news and nowhere in the police report documents. They were dissing the People journalists for being lazy and not researching.

This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 2:52 pm
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 2:50 pm to
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If he was never accepted at WSU and stayed in Pennsylvania for his phd, I still think he would’ve murdered someone sometime in the future.


I agree. In the documentary, the fellow students talked about the fact that the university in PN had purchased a house that was used in the courses. The professor created murder scenes from real murders that the students would have to solve examining the crime scenes. There was some footage from that.

I'm not convinced that Pappa Rodger wasn't BK even though the police couldn't find any relation to him. The image resembles him. The questions he asked were similar to those in a project he did at the PN school. He called the white car a red herring. and some alarming to the two women who were administrators of the page. The day BK was arrested, the account was completely deleted.
Posted by sledgehammer
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 2:58 pm to
That was Katherine Ramsland.

In the presser during the Q&A someone asked law enforcement about that and they denied it was connected to him. After thinking about it, I don’t trust them on that. In addition to what you said, PR talked about a sheath before that was made public. I agree with you. Theres too many coincidences around that one.

If law enforcement is correct, then who is PR and how would he know all that information? FBI has tracked down people for far less in this country.
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 3:23 pm
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 3:05 pm to
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In addition to what you said, PR talked about a sheath before that was made public.


Exactly. Too bizarre to be a coincidence in my mind. I think it was him and he was able to erase himself. The only part that would throw me is how he was able to erase himself AFTER the arrest unless he had someone else do it for him, which I feel would have come out. It was apparently instantaneously done.

Another interesting bit of information is that when he was arrested in the wee hours of the morning, law enforcement found him in the kitchen wearing latex gloves and putting his personal trash in ziploc bags. Presumably, he was intending to keep his DNA out of his parents' trash. Guess he forgot that they could start with his parents' DNA.
Posted by sledgehammer
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 3:08 pm to
Steve Goncalves said this text sent directly to his wife at the sentencing was sent from another state, and law enforcement is tracking the POI.

Can you imagine after everything the Goncalves family has gone through?
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 3:22 pm
Posted by sledgehammer
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 3:11 pm to
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found him in the kitchen wearing latex gloves and putting his personal trash in ziploc bags
I know right. It got me thinking if he had been doing that since Nov 13 and if he was going to keep doing that until he died?
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 3:24 pm to
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Steve Goncalves said this text sent directly to his wife at the sentencing was sent from another state, and law enforcement is tracking the POI.

Can you imagine after everything the Goncalves family has gone through.


I really hope they can figure out who sent that disgusting sick text. I know there are crazies out there who are his fans, writing to him and sending him money. It's difficult to believe these people exist. You certainly can't reason with them. He admitted guilt and his DNA is on the sheath left in the house. Come on!
Posted by sledgehammer
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:27 pm to
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He admitted guilt and his DNA is on the sheath left in the house
His parents have been awfully quiet during this whole process. Do you think they believe he’s guilty? If I recall, I think BK’s mom in the Patterson book said that BK was framed, and that LE got the wrong guy. That was as of last summer.

I really hope police will release the documents pertaining to his dad. What was said on their phone call early on Nov 13 right after the murders, and did anything come up during the cross country drive to Pennsylvania? In the book, his dad said they took a circuitous route back east but why?

I have to believe his dad had to know something before Dec 30 especially if he knew his son was organizing their trash with surgical gloves and ziplocks in the middle of the night. Who knows? Maybe he didn’t know that.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:46 pm to
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His parents have been awfully quiet during this whole process. Do you think they believe he’s guilty? If I recall, I think BK’s mom in the Patterson book said that BK was framed, and that LE got the wrong guy. That was as of last summer.


I would think his parents were counseled to keep quiet, but I never heard anything about his mother saying he was framed. However, up until recently, the intent of the defense was to present alternative possible perps. Not long before the plea deal, the judge denied their motion to do so. I think that's when they/he realized he had no choice but to enter the plea deal or risk the death penalty. They really had no defense left. His car was identified and they had his DNA on the sheath in the house. That alone would seal the deal.

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I really hope police will release the documents pertaining to his dad. What was said on their phone call early on Nov 13 right after the murders, and did anything come up during the cross country drive to Pennsylvania? In the book, his dad said they took a circuitous route back east but why?


I doubt he told his parents anything at that point. The circuitous route wasn't very successful since they were stopped twice( or was it three times) on the route.

I read that when he made that call, he spoke with his Mom. I think he was a Momma's boy who talked with her often. A prisoner in another cell said he spent hours on FaceTime with her in his cell. I'm thinking the call on the morning of the 13th may have been a usual call he made. It was 6 am where he was, but 8 am where she was.

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I have to believe his dad had to know something before Dec 30 especially if he knew his son was organizing their trash with surgical gloves and ziplocks in the middle of the night. Who knows? Maybe he didn’t know that.


I'm betting his parents didn't know about his habit of segregating his personal trash. That's why he did it in the wee hours of the night.

I suspect he denied everything to them until he could no longer do so. His mother and sister attended the sentencing. His father did not.
Posted by sledgehammer
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:39 pm to
If that part in the Patterson book is true, it definitely says the mom was adamant he had nothing to do with the murders. The book was written during the alternative killer phase way before the plea deal so that aligns with the timeline.

Since it sounds like his parents didn’t suspect any thing in the short time he lived with them after the murders, it really speaks to BK’s ability to compartmentalize his two lives just like one of his idols Ted Bundy.

This is Alivea talking about her impact statement describing the narcissistic psychopath BK. Fascinatingly scary.

Posted by nosaj
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:42 pm to
I think he went to WSU with the sole intention of carrying out a murder.

I may be misremembering but didn’t he buy the knife in March of 22 before moving in June of 22?

There was also phone activity in the area of the house months beforehand.
Posted by nosaj
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 5:43 pm to
Also, there’s a photo of the crime scene online that shows the door dash bag in the kitchen with Xana’s name on it.
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 5:43 pm
Posted by sledgehammer
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 6:10 pm to
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think he went to WSU with the sole intention of carrying out a murder.
you may very well be correct. I’m in the other camp since he was trying to be outgoing and make connections when he first arrived. I wish we knew for certain.
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didn’t he buy the knife in March of 22 before moving in June of 22?
April of 22 while he was still at DeSales University.
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was also phone activity in the area of the house months beforehand
the dateline episode stated 23 times starting I think in July of 22
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the door dash bag in the kitchen with Xana’s name on it.
that’s what someone referenced on FB. Do you have a link to some of the photos?
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 6:12 pm
Posted by nosaj
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 8:31 pm to
If you google “Idaho murders crime scene” you’ll see plenty. You can also google “xana DoorDash bag”. I went down a Reddit rabbit hole and found a bunch, I’ll try to find the link.
Posted by sledgehammer
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 8:58 pm to
This is my personal K-Bar that I bought in 2013. I got it out today thinking about these poor college students and noticed something that really hasn’t been addressed. If BK wore a murder uniform that had belt loops, it would’ve been impossible to leave the sheath and there’d be no DNA. Alivia Gonclaves is correct. He’s pathetic.

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