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Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:40 pm to
Since it is your property, we can stop all government subsidies, and take our water back, right?
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:40 pm to
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the bolded word is the one that pisses me off the most.


Why is that?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:40 pm to
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I've got bolt cutters in my floating camp



I've got camera's and I will hunt you down

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is I can't use something I pay for?


Im missing something, how are you paying for a natural resource such as water?
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:41 pm to
That spec was paid for by the landowner. You were poaching
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:41 pm to
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thats my point....im getting blasted for saying we should be able to block off dead end canals/one way in one way out canals...


Then I agree 100%.

The main issue here should be ingress/egress as 19thHole pointed out.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 12:42 pm
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:41 pm to
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Why is that?
because just because you, and other landwoners think in your all knowing minds that someone doesn't "have to" access the water to fish doesn't make it right.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:41 pm to
why is a big deal if someone fishes that canal?


I can see you gating off access past your camp.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:42 pm to
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Im missing something, how are you paying for a natural resource such as water?
The government helps me with that. I've said it 10 times already, but it's not your water
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:43 pm to
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because just because you, and other landwoners think in your all knowing minds that someone doesn't "have to" access the water to fish doesn't make it right.


We don't "think" anything, we paid for the right. There's absolutely no reason for you to HAVE to access my duck pond that leads nowhere.

That's like saying you only "think" that no one needs access to your backyard and the public should be able to access it as they please.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 12:45 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:44 pm to
nah we didn't have poached trout we fried it
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:44 pm to
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If someone has to go through your land to access public waters, it shouldn't be blocked off.
the bolded word is the one that pisses me off the most.



There is a lot of state land (swamp land, not water) in the basin that the only access to is to go through someone else's property to get to the state land...on 4 wheelers
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:46 pm to
I fish around deer bayou but I've never seen any gates...that I can remember
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:46 pm to
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There's absolutely no reason for you to HAVE to access my duck pond that leads nowhere.
i fish duck ponds all the time from Lake Borgne to Fourchon. There's great redfishing those "duck ponds" during high tide. Those fish go in and out of there every day during tidal movements. This thread is about tidal waters.
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

There is a lot of state land (swamp land, not water) in the basin that the only access to is to go through someone else's property to get to the state land...on 4 wheelers


In a situation like that there should be some form of accommodation for people to access the state land.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69716 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:46 pm to
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.im getting blasted for saying we should be able to block off dead end canals/one way in one way out canals...



if the canal is 500 yards long why should the entire canal be gated?
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:47 pm to
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That's like saying you only "think" that no one needs access to your backyard and the public should be able to access it as they please.


not wanting to sound like a dick. Land/water

I really don't understand why some of you keep attempting to equate the two. Really blows my mind.
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:48 pm to
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i fish duck ponds all the time from Lake Borgne to Fourchon. There's great redfishing those "duck ponds" during high tide. Those fish go in and out of there every day during tidal movements. This thread is about tidal waters.


In my personal opinion, that's 100% fine, and I myself allow fishermen to access my land. However, if the landowner chooses to gate it and isn't blocking access to public land, then it is his right to do so.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91502 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:50 pm to
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I have a camp in a dead in canal and have it gated off. There's no reason for any boats to be back there.


It is pretty straight forward - the moment a canal was dug to allow public water to flow into it, public boats should be allowed in as well. If you want them out, put the land back where it was and the water will leave too.

Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:50 pm to
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why is a big deal if someone fishes that canal?



it's not about keeping someone from fishing..it's about keeping people away from my camp, out of my duck ponds, off my deer stands, shooting nutria off my land, etc..

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I can see you gating off access past your camp.



the gate is at the entrance of the lease right where it starts to becomes a one way in one way out
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:50 pm to
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I really don't understand why some of you keep attempting to equate the two. Really blows my mind.


Do you own the air above your house or can I just come and drop pilings around your house and build on top of you? The land under the water is owned by the landowner, therefore access to that land whether by water or dry earth is irrelevant.

If the water is on my land, I own the water.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 12:52 pm
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