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Posted on 12/8/14 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by link
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

wrong way to look at it.

gotta disagree. like i said earlier, knowing the holiday is called New Year's, you're making a New Year's resolution in the same way you'd be making a Halloween or Thanksgiving resolution.

holiday name + "resolution"

it was a pleasure posting with you fine gentlemen. i'll see my way out.
Posted by tidalmouse
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary 5 days ago - What is New Year('s) resolution? a promise that you make to ... bad on the first day of the year: "Have you made any New Year's resolutions


I'll go with them.
This post was edited on 12/8/14 at 12:50 pm
Posted by TheMuffinMan
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 12:49 pm to
You would say "This week's goal is to sell x units." It's the goal for that week, it's not the standard concept of ownership but it's still an application of the possessive. You could also say "Our goal for this week" and that would be fine too, but New Year's resolutions is valid and it is certainly not "New Years resolutions" because that's plural.
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 12:53 pm to
2015 resolutions

You can't go wrong.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33010 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 12:53 pm to
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No it's not. Why are you even trying to argue this?


im not, i even admitted both ways are probably technically correct, but trying to use "New Year Day" as an example isn't right. it is new year's day, but the resolutions dont belong to the year. the day does.

another example:

i'm having a party on New Year's day.

(it is your party that happens to be on that day) The following are correct:

I'm having a New Year party.

I'm having a New Year's Day party.

I'm having a party.

the 's from New Year's comes from New Year's Day even though the day is often dropped when describing other things.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33010 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

knowing the holiday is called New Year's


saying "New Year's" without saying "Day" doesn't make sense.

quote:

you're making a New Year's resolution in the same way you'd be making a Halloween or Thanksgiving resolution.


exactly, it isn't "my thanksgiving's resolution" or "my birthday's resolution"
This post was edited on 12/8/14 at 12:57 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

I'm having a New Year party.


While grammatically correct, you are the only person I know that would say it that way.

Posted by guedeaux
Member since Jan 2008
13846 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 12:56 pm to
In conclusion, OP should put "New Year's Day Resolution(s)" on his mailer.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

saying "New Year's" without saying "Day" doesn't make sense.


Actually it does. It's basically like a you understood. Just about everyone would know exactly what holiday you were talking about if you said "What are you doing for new Year's?"

Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33010 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

In conclusion, OP should put "New Year's Day Resolution(s)" on his mailer.


if you only intend the resolution for one day.

if you want to keep then for the whole year (even bigger ) then they are New Year Resolutions.
Posted by Displaced
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 12:58 pm to
the "day" is implied????


i know it is
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 12:59 pm to
Or an easier way to say it is new year's resolution, meaning one resolution for the whole new year.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

the "day" is implied????


i know it is


Well the only reason to justify the way you say it is to act like it isn't implied.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33010 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:00 pm to
but the possessive is still on year.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:00 pm to
Technically "New Year Resolutions" is correct, but Americans have butchered it by constantly saying "New Year's Resolutions" as if the resolutions belong to the New Year and not yourself.

Unfortunately, it has become so popular to say "New Year's Resolutions" that if you actually start saying "New Year Resolutions", educated people would look at you like you were a fool.

This is one of those situations where it is better to follow the crowd and say it incorrectly than be a douchebag and pronounce it correctly.

Follow the norm.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33010 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Well the only reason to justify the way you say it is to act like it isn't implied.


because, although it is implied in today's english, it isn't gramatically correct. that is what this thread is about.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

but the possessive is still on year.


"'s" doesn't solely imply possession BTW.

Side note: link, this is how these threads go forever.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33010 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:01 pm to
exactly
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

because, although it is implied in today's english, it isn't gramatically correct.


Wrong. It is grammatically correct.
quote:

that is what this thread is about.


My way is right. DWI.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33010 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

's" doesn't solely imply possession BTW.


What is your New Year is Resolution?

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