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re: Pitbull attacks, child dies
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:16 am to thedice20
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:16 am to thedice20
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Keep fighting the good fight. These people will fight and argue this until they are blue in the face.
Oh I know. I just wanted to get actual facts out and on record in here so people could see for themselves how dangerous the pit bull really is. On top of that, it's also amusing to see the lengths the pit apologists will go to defend the breed. I'll say as many of these threads as I've seen, the argument that the pit is actually the most common breed in the US is both a new one and the most absurd argument I've seen given yet.
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:17 am to Darth_Vader
Who said the pit is the most common breed in the U.S.?
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:18 am to iwasthere
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Your numbers are real. Using your numbers, the percent drops even more. So by your real numbers, it shows that less than .2% of pits kill.
What is the percentage of the other dog breeds?
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:19 am to iwasthere
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Your numbers are real. Using your numbers, the percent drops even more. So by your real numbers, it shows that less than .2% of pits kill.
Off all the arguments made in this thread, yours is the most absurd.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:20 am to thedice20
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What is the percentage of the other dog breeds?
100% of chihuahuas I think......buncha jerks
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:21 am to Darth_Vader
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I'll say as many of these threads as I've seen, the argument that the pit is actually the most common breed in the US is both a new one and the most absurd argument I've seen given yet
Please show me where it isn't the most in the US. You can't. All you can do is show a stat that the AKC puts out on registered dogs with them only.
Also, going off your facts, There is less than a .2% chance that a pit will kill someone. That doesn't look bad at all. Especially since they are so dangerous, aggressive, and prone to snap. Please show me some facts to dispute this .2%.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:23 am to Camo Tiger 337
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Who said the pit is the most common breed in the U.S.?
His username is "iwasthere". Here's what he said....
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Another point about something previous posters stated. When looking at stats, they are just that. They show only what they want you to see. I will never dispute the fact that pits have been involved in more deaths. I will say that you alos have to look at the number of pits in America compared to other breeds. I would be willing to say that there are more pits than any other breed.
This was in response to the stats I posted showing that Pits account for usually about 70% of all fatal dog attacks yearly.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:23 am to Camo Tiger 337
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Who said the pit is the most common breed in the U.S.?
I said I think it is, but there isn't a way to prove it either way.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:25 am to iwasthere
He's correct
No matter how much we want to argue about it, we can't prove it. Especially if you count in mix breeds. There's a new litter being born every minute so yeah, no way to prove it.
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I said I think it is, but there isn't a way to prove it either way.
No matter how much we want to argue about it, we can't prove it. Especially if you count in mix breeds. There's a new litter being born every minute so yeah, no way to prove it.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:27 am to iwasthere
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Please show me where it isn't the most in the US. You can't. All you can do is show a stat that the AKC puts out on registered dogs with them only.
Also, going off your facts, There is less than a .2% chance that a pit will kill someone. That doesn't look bad at all. Especially since they are so dangerous, aggressive, and prone to snap. Please show me some facts to dispute this .2%.
I've already shown how year after year the pit kills more than all other breeds combined. You keep throwing out this .2% that you admit you made up while I gave real numbers showing the numbers of fatal dog attacks. Unless you can contribute something of actual worth (as in based on real provable numbers instead of shite you pull out of your arse) to the debate, I consider the point settled that the pit is indeed the most dangerous of all breeds and it's really not even close.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:29 am to Darth_Vader
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contribute something of actual worth (as in based on real provable numbers instead of shite you pull out of your arse)
quote:No. Do you not take into consideration the intelligence of a German Shepherd or Lab or any other dog for that matter? Aggression alone doesn't make the pit bull the most dangerous breed, most dangerous in the dog family, even further down that list.
I consider the point settled that the pit is indeed the most dangerous of all breeds and it's really not even close.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:32 am to Darth_Vader
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I consider the point settled that the pit is indeed the most dangerous of all breeds and it's really not even close.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:35 am to DeathValley85
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100% of chihuahuas I think......buncha jerks
Seriously, if the little guys/gals were just 35 to 40 pound dogs, they would have been banned a long time ago.
They're only not lethal because they're small. Their spirit is more than willing to kill - and with little provocation.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:40 am to Darth_Vader
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the pit is indeed the most dangerous of all breeds and it's really not even close.
I never disputed this.
Again read this next part closely.
According to your facts about the number of pit bulls that killed someone in that year, there is less than a .2% chance that a pit will kill. Now here is a disclaimer, for this percent, I did use a made up number on the total number of pits in the world. If there are only 100,000 pits in the world(we know there are more than this) that would put the percent to less than .2%. Just because it is the top dog in kills when compared to all other dogs, it is still a very low percentage when compared to the total population of pits. Now, if the percent was anywhere close to say 50%, then that would be a problem.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:40 am to Camo Tiger 337
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No. Do you not take into consideration the intelligence of a German Shepherd or Lab or any other dog for that matter?
So you're saying the pit is a stupid breed compared to the German Shepherd? Does that account for the fact that in 2013 pits killed 25 people while German Shepherds killed 2?
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Aggression alone doesn't make the pit bull the most dangerous breed, most dangerous in the dog family, even further down that list.
As for the "list" you're mentioning in your post... what "list" is this? and pray tell what other breed is even close to the pit when it comes to being dangerous? And lastly, what facts do you base your opinion that these other breeds are more dangerous than then pit? I'll be waiting.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:42 am to iwasthere
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I never disputed this.
Again read this next part closely.
According to your facts about the number of pit bulls that killed someone in that year, there is less than a .2% chance that a pit will kill. Now here is a disclaimer, for this percent, I did use a made up number on the total number of pits in the world. If there are only 100,000 pits in the world(we know there are more than this) that would put the percent to less than .2%. Just because it is the top dog in kills when compared to all other dogs, it is still a very low percentage when compared to the total population of pits. Now, if the percent was anywhere close to say 50%, then that would be a problem.
The bolded portion invalidates the rest of your mindless drivel you attempted to pass off as a point.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:44 am to Darth_Vader
What would you say is the total amount of pits in the world? More or less than 100,00?
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:45 am to Camo Tiger 337
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No. Do you not take into consideration the intelligence of a German Shepherd or Lab or any other dog for that matter? Aggression alone doesn't make the pit bull the most dangerous breed, most dangerous in the dog family, even further down that list.
Son, do you even understand what dangerous means? I would argue that because of the German Shepherd and Labs intelligence, they do not attack as frequently.
Your argument is about like this:
The mentally estranged kid with a temper who has access to guns, isnt as dangerous as a kid who has guns and is more intelligent.
Its horeshit and you know it.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:47 am to iwasthere
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More or less than 100,00?
Well you did admit you're making numbers up but I didn't realize the full scope of what you meant.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:49 am to Darth_Vader
More or less than 100,000?
Is that better? Will you answer it now, or will you dance around it?
Is that better? Will you answer it now, or will you dance around it?
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