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re: Prediction: within 10 years the shortage of teachers will be a crisis
Posted on 5/11/14 at 3:57 pm to gingerkittie
Posted on 5/11/14 at 3:57 pm to gingerkittie
Assuming you left the system?
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Posted on 5/11/14 at 3:58 pm to lsu480
Doomsday scenarios are constant on this board, but this one is fact. The average new teachers since 2000 has a career of less than three years. The baby boomers are retiring at record pace and there will be a shortage.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 3:59 pm to High C
I'm not clear on what the OT's consensus about teachers is
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:00 pm to High C
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Believe me, the lack of application of common sense isn't coming from the teachers. We're begging for that very thing
Believe me, I wasn't blaming the teachers.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:01 pm to brewhan davey
Most are overpaid and of the poo poo quality
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:02 pm to brewhan davey
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I'm not clear on what the OT's consensus about teachers is
As a teacher, I believe approximately 1/3 are there to get their paychecks with as little work possible. 1/3 are indifferent and do the job to their best ability and are average. 1/3 are truly gifted in teaching, try to do more, and either are promoted out of the classroom, or leave for better opportunity.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:02 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
I am a teacher in a very good school district. I can tell you that the blame goes all the way around. Teachers that don't care. Teachers aren't paid enough (laugh all you want but babysitters make a better yearly salary than teachers do). Lastly, it's parents and the accountability they have for themselves and their children. Even at the high rated school I work at, it's a struggle due to kids thinking they can do whatever they want with no consequences. When the school places consequences on said students, a majority of the parents blame the school for disciplining their child rather than disciplining their child for not following school rules. Blame goes ALL the way around. Poor teaching, poor pay, and poor parenting....lower class, middle class, and high class.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:03 pm to brewhan davey
quote:They are greedy and do bad job
I'm not clear on what the OT's consensus about teachers is
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:05 pm to couv1217
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a majority of the parents blame the school for disciplining their child rather than disciplining their child for not following school rules
Every parents believes their child is the exceptional child who does no wrong. It is pathetic. My parents were both teachers. I called home twice in my life for being in trouble. My teachers knew that if that happened, I was straightened out immediately and punished doubly bad at home.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:06 pm to House_of Cards
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As a teacher, I believe approximately 1/3 are there to get their paychecks with as little work possible. 1/3 are indifferent and do the job to their best ability and are average. 1/3 are truly gifted in teaching, try to do more, and either are promoted out of the classroom, or leave for better opportunity.
I would adjust that a bit. I think that a great number of the first third you mentioned are promoted out of the classroom to try to improve the % of good teachers. Also, after 18 years, I believe many of the last third slowly slip into the middle third.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:08 pm to Tingle
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Quality of teaching is a bigger crisis.
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Quality of parenting is a bigger crisis.
The later is most definitely true. Sure, some of these teachers don't give a damn, but the fact is teachers who work in private schools don't have to work nearly as hard as those in public schools in bad neighborhoods. The private school teachers clearly teach kids with parents who care, but go into the inner city, and it's a completely different story. Throw as much money at teachers as you want, but its not going to really help until we can correct the problems at the source: the home.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:10 pm to House_of Cards
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Doomsday scenarios are constant on this board, but this one is fact. The average new teachers since 2000 has a career of less than three years. The baby boomers are retiring at record pace and there will be a shortage.
If there starts to be a shortage we will have to start paying them more and boom the shortage will be over. It's not rocket science.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:10 pm to OMLandshark
What if we offered tax breaks to parents of students with higher grades and lower discipline problems? Incentive for shitty parents?
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:10 pm to OMLandshark
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The private school teachers clearly teach kids with parents who care, but go into the inner city, and it's a completely different story.
I promise it's not just the inner city. I work at a public school which is essentially a private school because of the middle class area we are and the kids are just as bad just not in the thuggish fighting way. They have their own ways of being bad and disrespectful.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:12 pm to OMLandshark
Problem children should just be taken out of the classroom and sent to special "schools" that really do nothing but babysit and maybe teach them how to dig ditches. There's no point in holding the kids who want to learn back because of the useless ones that will never amount to anything.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:13 pm to House_of Cards
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What if we offered tax breaks to parents of students with higher grades and lower discipline problems? Incentive for shitty parents?
Lol, most shitty students and problem children come from parents who don't pay taxes anyway.
This post was edited on 5/11/14 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:13 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Problem children should just be taken out of the classroom and sent to special "schools" that really do nothing but babysit and maybe teach them how to dig ditches.
We tried this in the past with vocational and trade schools. However, politicians suggested this method of tracking youngsters was a form of racial profiling and not up to the vision of IDEA.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:13 pm to bencoleman
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I think the only way to eventually fix the system is a mass exodus of teachers from the public school system. Then and only then can the system be overhauled and some common sense be applied.
What is that going to help? First off these kids would now have no authority over them, leading to the smart kids who want to do something with their lives will be cannibalized. Secondly, do you think the teachers, especially when there is a union involved, are going to do this? No, if they were to leave, it would be simply to have more power for themselves, especially the incompetent ones.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:14 pm to couv1217
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I promise it's not just the inner city. I work at a public school which is essentially a private school because of the middle class area we are and the kids are just as bad just not in the thuggish fighting way. They have their own ways of being bad and disrespectful
Absolutely
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:14 pm to House_of Cards
quote:So fricking what?
We tried this in the past with vocational and trade schools. However, politicians suggested this method of tracking youngsters was a form of racial profiling and not up to the vision of IDEA
This post was edited on 5/11/14 at 4:15 pm
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