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re: Prediction: within 10 years the shortage of teachers will be a crisis
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:15 pm to VerlanderBEAST
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:15 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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They are greedy and do bad job
He said the OT consensus, not Asian consensus.
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Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:15 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Lol, most shitty students and problem children come from parents who don't pay taxes anyway.
Touche...also in my mind. I am really not sure we can change the culture of parenting enough to truly reverse poor public school education. All we are doing are catering to the needs of the bottom, eschewing our best, and conforming children to the same generic mold.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:16 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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This is horseshite. At least in Ga. we fire teachers every year because our admins do the paperwork trail to get rid of them. However, we don't have a strong union presence here.
This may not be the case in Georgia, but it's certainly the case in New York. In fact, what they've chosen to do with these incompetent teachers is to put them in a room 7 hours a day to play checkers and other bullshite, and then let them go at 3:00. They can't fire them, but they're so incompetent that they know it's better if they don't interact with the kids.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:17 pm to High C
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Absolutely
Which is a direct reflection of lack of parenting skills and parents trying to be their child's friend more than a parent.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:17 pm to House_of Cards
One way to start is to vote out shitty politicians.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:17 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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So fricking what?
Not sure if you're pissed at me or the government on your response. I am very much in favor of vocational and trade schools at early ages. Bottom line is we know pretty well by age 14 who has the potential to go to college and have a career. Others need to be separated from their peers and learn a skill to avoid being a bum their whole life.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:18 pm to OMLandshark
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This is horse shite. At least in Ga. we fire teachers every year because our admins do the paperwork trail to get rid of them. However, we don't have a strong union presence here.
This may not be the case in Georgia, but it's certainly the case in New York. In fact, what they've chosen to do with these incompetent teachers is to put them in a room 7 hours a day to play checkers and other bullshite, and then let them go at 3:00. They can't fire them, but they're so incompetent that they know it's better if they don't interact with the kids.
Just confirmed my earlier point with the same NYC policy I cited.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:18 pm to House_of Cards
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Not sure if you're pissed at me or the government on your response.
THE GUBMEMT
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:19 pm to House_of Cards
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Not sure if you're pissed at me or the government on your response. I am very much in favor of vocational and trade schools at early ages. Bottom line is we know pretty well by age 14 who has the potential to go to college and have a career. Others need to be separated from their peers and learn a skill to avoid being a bum their whole life.
I've preached this for years. Never happen in the current political/sociological climate.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:21 pm to House_of Cards
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I am very much in favor of vocational and trade schools at early ages.
Agree 100%. Who cares if we track them into vocational and trade schools? Not every child will be the american dream of a doctor, lawyer, or plant operator. We will need people to work on cars, do plumbing, lay concrete, etc.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:22 pm to House_of Cards
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In fact, what they've chosen to do with these incompetent teachers is to put them in a room 7 hours a day to play checkers and other bullshite, and then let them go at 3:00. They can't fire them, but they're so incompetent that they know it's better if they don't interact with the kids.
This is amazing. What would possibly motivate the good teachers to continue to do a good job? I guess it's the same principle that still has me at work when I see the ease of relying on public assistance all around me.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:23 pm to couv1217
In my Frosh Bio I class, I honestly have a student who reads at a second grade level and is failing every class she takes. However, her mother refuses our persistent efforts to allow her to go to trade school because she wants her to be on the diploma track to become a lawyer.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:23 pm to High C
Has anyone discussed the lack of male teachers and what that means for students?
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:24 pm to High C
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What would possibly motivate the good teachers to continue to do a good job?
BINGO! Why work harder when you can get paid the same being pathetic? It is less stressful and healthier to NOT CARE or do your job. Embarrassing system we have created.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:25 pm to High C
A: Education majors are the dumbest of all college graduates. lowest GMAT of all majors
B: Teachers are for the most part lazy, overpaid, complainers who wouldn't make it 1 month in a 'real' job with the attitudes most of them have.
C: Teachers have a very, very, very tough job dealing with disrespectful, lazy, stupid kids who don't care while being hamstrung by unions and liberal bureaucrats that won't allow them to manage their class.
A + B + C + educational disaster
there won't be a shortage as we pay absurd salaries to these bozos, we'll just continue to scrap the bottom of the barrel and let morons 'educate' the lower socioeconomic blob....
cheers!
ETA: deep and sincere apologies to the few GREAT teachers out there...yes there are some and they are GOLD....
B: Teachers are for the most part lazy, overpaid, complainers who wouldn't make it 1 month in a 'real' job with the attitudes most of them have.
C: Teachers have a very, very, very tough job dealing with disrespectful, lazy, stupid kids who don't care while being hamstrung by unions and liberal bureaucrats that won't allow them to manage their class.
A + B + C + educational disaster
there won't be a shortage as we pay absurd salaries to these bozos, we'll just continue to scrap the bottom of the barrel and let morons 'educate' the lower socioeconomic blob....
cheers!
ETA: deep and sincere apologies to the few GREAT teachers out there...yes there are some and they are GOLD....
This post was edited on 5/11/14 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:26 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Has anyone discussed the lack of male teachers and what that means for students?
I think public school education would benefit a lot if we pushed hiring strong, male teachers in elementary schools. Role models for youths without fathers and a disciplinary figure to train kids younger. I do not suggest all females are weaker, but males are typically stronger in the discipline area of education. I will be mangled for that comment, but I don't care.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:27 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Has anyone discussed the lack of male teachers and what that means for students?
As the only male teacher on my hall, I have practically no discipline problems. That being said, most males go into education with the coupling motive of coaching, myself included. Where are you suggesting this discussion take place?
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:28 pm to Eighteen
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While some actually got the education and take it seriously, it's very obvious a lot of them just used it as a "fall back" career after graduating.
Interesting, because we run with a similar group and I feel the exact opposite
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:29 pm to House_of Cards
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I do not suggest all females are weaker, but males are typically stronger in the discipline area of education.
Females are weaker. It's just a fact. How many hoodrats are going to respect 110 lb white girl 1 year removed from the sorority house?
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:30 pm to High C
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Where are you suggesting this discussion take place?
We can discuss it here. School districts should pay more for male teachers.
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