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Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:33 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:33 pm to
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Man, i just have this weird feeling that its coming for us. Something just tells me that all the models are wrong right now.


Not many examples of them agreeing this much and ultimately missing by 200 nautical miles (between Panama City on the western edge of the cone and Buras, LA) and 300 nautical miles between the center of the track and Buras. FWIW, @ 48 hours the average margin of error for tropical depressions is still less than 100 nautical miles, so while nothing is a certainty, things are looking peachy for LA.





For a system that is basically in the middle of the GOM, that is about as good as you can conceivably hope for unless it completely dissipates.
Posted by iron banks
Destrehan
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:35 pm to
NHC is usually pretty good 3 days in. This is a Florida storm folks.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:35 pm to
It's coming our way baw. :dwi:
Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
11000 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:38 pm to
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For a system that is basically in the middle of the GOM, that is about as good as you can conceivably hope for
. Which is why I don't trust it at all. When was the last time a system spent 3 days in the middle of the gulf and didn't become a dangerous storm? I'm asking because I don't remember one ever just dissipating after being in the gulf that long.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91511 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:40 pm to
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It's coming our way baw. :dwi:


, sure seems like people are just getting themselves worked up for no reason at this point. 4-5 days ago, sure, but things are becoming pretty clear as far as steering is concerned. Even a westward drift now doesn't do much to the end of the forecast period. This thing is forecast to go NE and then NNE over the next 24 and 48 hours respectively, so a drift here or there shouldn't pose a thread to LA.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21274 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:40 pm to
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That's current/immediate past vs. future motion.

The next dot is 12 hours from now.



Also, they don't update path on updates and only with issuing full packages, so the path can look squirrelly in between. Then add in that they smooth the track and don't make drastic changes.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91511 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:44 pm to
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Which is why I don't trust it at all. When was the last time a system spent 3 days in the middle of the gulf and didn't become a dangerous storm? I'm asking because I don't remember one ever just dissipating after being in the gulf that long.




Karen from 2013?



The absence of storms in the GOM lately is pretty well documented. Shear has been a major issue and is still forecast to be an issue as this system moves northward.
Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
11000 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:46 pm to
I hope your right. I just thought that the warm waters trumped almost everything's else.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91511 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:48 pm to
The initial big flare up of convection seems to be giving way to a northeastern flare up. Somewhere in between and to the northwest is where the LLC appeared last before dusk.




Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91511 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:50 pm to
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I hope your right. I just thought that the warm waters trumped almost everything's else.


Yeah I mean they're a piece of the puzzle but it takes a lot more than that alone. Karen literally dissipated going across the GOM.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21274 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:52 pm to
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I hope your right. I just thought that the warm waters trumped almost everything's else.


Mid levels up in the atmosphere trump everything, IMO. There has been plenty of warm water the past few years. Some of the best looking Atlantic storms lately have been farther north over cooler waters, see Gaston.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91511 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:54 pm to
I don't know if this storm will amount to anything, but this is probably the "best" it has looked on IR since the thread was started.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
121343 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 8:59 pm to
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A very confusing storm


I am just checking to see what's going on with this storm. I was talking with my neighbor earlier and he said it looks like it will hook East, but reading in this thread it looks like there other factors involved that is making this storm not easy to predict.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21274 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:00 pm to
Really depends on where the LLC is but it's firing plenty of convection tonight.

Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:02 pm to
Its been a tough little storm. I know its illogical at this point but I still don't trust the models,at least not until it is a little more organized. It's been a mess. The latest infrared images look like it may be trying to get its shite together.
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 9:03 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91511 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:05 pm to
I'm not sure how much of the convection to the east is considered part of the system, but size wise this thing is quite large at the moment.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21274 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:07 pm to
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I was talking with my neighbor earlier and he said it looks like it will hook East, but reading in this thread it looks like there other factors involved that is making this storm not easy to predict.


In the end, all models agree that the trough will be deep enough to capture the storm. I would only be a little nervous if I lived in Destin or Panama City
Posted by Shankopotomus
Social Distanced
Member since Feb 2009
21082 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:08 pm to
This is probably a stupid question and/or has been discussed, but I bet there's a good number of LSU fans flying through ATL on Thursday/Friday.....are we thinking this is going to mess up some travel plans?
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
22666 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:11 pm to
I wouldn't be worried at all about Louisiana. I'm only paying attention to see if I'm going to be sitting in the rain all weekend at the beach.
Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
11000 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 9:11 pm to
No.








Probably not.







Maybe?
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 9:13 pm
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