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Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:13 pm to
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:13 pm to
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You have the emotions of a female.




Tyreek, was the one crying like a bitch. If anyone needs to man up, it's him. He made his decision to act like a punk and got treated like one. Now you're defending a piece of shite like he's some kind of national hero. Good job.

All he had to do was communicate like a normal human being. Instead, he chose to be a defiant dindu. I'm not surprised.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
33970 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:14 pm to
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He's an entitled a-hole


That might be true, but it's also not illegal.
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
6607 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:17 pm to
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The point you STILL not getting is that he got pulled out of his car for rolling the window back up, which isn't illegal
Seems to me the point that you STILL aren't getting is he wasn't pulled out of the car for rolling the window back up.

It was for not rolling it back down when directed.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:19 pm to

I'm not defending
Hill at all. You're the emotional one here, who can't seem to see past Hill The Dindu. Feelings aren't facts.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
33970 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:21 pm to
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Now you're defending a piece of shite like he's some kind of national hero.


Condemning the police for violating someone's right isn't the same thing as defending the other person's actions. These two things are mutually exclusive. Unfortunately, some of the small brained people in this thread can't comprehend that.

Furthermore, Hill isn't the "professional" here. Hill didn't swear an oath to protect and defend the Constitution as part of his job duties. He's also not paid by the tax payers or expected to maintain some form of professionalism when interacting with those tax payers. However, all of the police in this incident are subject to those things.

When you sign up to be a law enforcement officer, you know you are going to be dealing with knuckleheads as part of the job. If your ego and temper doesn't allow you to do that, then you should find some other form of employment. I would imagine in the not so distant future that's exactly what all of these cops are going to be forced to do...
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
90207 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:23 pm to
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The best part of the video is when Tyreek says they stopped him because he is a black man in America and the officers resplendent with “we aren’t white “
Is the officer saying only white people can be racist?
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
33970 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:25 pm to
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It was for not rolling it back down when directed.


But 1. By law, he's not required to roll it back down.

and 2. He did roll it back down. Just not far enough for the liking of the police.

Unfortunately for the police in this situation, they don't get to enforce laws based their opinion.



Posted by Baldy
Member since May 2020
443 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:25 pm to
Not getting into the "should cops act this way" or "did Hill deserve his this treatment" side of the discussion.

But if you ignore a cop's orders, cop an attitude AND roll up a dark tinted window during a stop the color of your skin doesn't matter, you're coming.out of the car and ending up in cuffs nine times in ten.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
90207 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:26 pm to
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What is up with the officer's "gang style" tattoos
Uhh, he’s in a gang..
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6362 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:27 pm to
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That might be true, but it's also not illegal.



On the side of the road is not the time to be a belligerent a-hole. Just take your ticket and show up in court.

He did everything he could to make the traffic stop worse than it needed to be. Rolling up the window, spouting off about how he was running late and to just give him the ticket wasn't going to go well for him. Him telling the cop not to tap on his window and "just do what you got to do" is just entitled bullshite behavior. He did everything he could to provoke an arrest, because he didn't want to roll down his window.

He's fine. His civil rights weren't violated. Hopefully he learned a lesson (doubtful.)
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
110078 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:28 pm to
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But if you ignore a cop's orders, cop an attitude AND roll up a dark tinted window during a stop the color of your skin doesn't matter, you're coming.out of the car and ending up in cuffs nine times in ten.
Reauxl says it’s racist to do that to a black man in America

#kamala2024

#reauxlisteamSao
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:33 pm to
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He did everything he could to make the traffic stop worse than it needed to be. Rolling up the window, spouting off about how he was running late and to just give him the ticket wasn't going to go well for him. Him telling the cop not to tap on his window and "just do what you got to do" is just entitled bullshite behavior. He did everything he could to provoke an arrest, because he didn't want to roll down his window.



Not only have you made up facts based on emotion, your view of 1A and 4A is concerning.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
33970 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:36 pm to
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On the side of the road is not the time to be a belligerent a-hole. Just take your ticket and show up in court.

He did everything he could to make the traffic stop worse than it needed to be. Rolling up the window, spouting off about how he was running late and to just give him the ticket wasn't going to go well for him. Him telling the cop not to tap on his window and "just do what you got to do" is just entitled bullshite behavior. He did everything he could to provoke an arrest, because he didn't want to roll down his window.


Again, none of those things are illegal. Irritating Sure. But but being an a-hole isn't illegal. If the cop, who's supposed to be a professional, can't deal with those things without this response, they should find something else to do with for work.

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His civil rights weren't violated.


Under the 4th amendment, they absolutely were. He was illegal detained without legal justification. In the video, after having him in cuffs for 18 mins, the supervisor asked the arresting officer if he'd written the tickets yet and he said, "Not yet." (This is because the supervisor actually knows the law and knew they were in deep kimchee...) Seven to 8 mins later the tickets were handed to him. The law says you can only detain someone long enough to to preform the duties needed to complete the violation you contacted someone about in the first place. In this case the traffic stop. The fact that the officer kept him there, in handcuffs, for an additional 18 mins means that it was technically an illegal detention and that his rights were violated.
This post was edited on 9/11/24 at 2:40 pm
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6362 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:40 pm to
Watch the video. Video If you still think I'm making up facts, then you're just disingenuous.

If a cop asks you to roll down a tinted window, it's for his safety. He could have instructed him to get out of the vehicle the second he rolled it up and didn't comply. Hell, he should have just busted out the window. The cop doesn't know what's going on in the vehicle.

This post was edited on 9/11/24 at 2:43 pm
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
33970 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:44 pm to
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dark tinted window




Having watched the video several times now, I'm not sure the windows were tinted that darkly. If you look, you can clearly see hill's t-shirt, watch and other personal effect in the car. What I think is going on is people are confusing the reflection on the window from the body cam as "dark tint". A pair of polarized sunglasses would knock the glare right out.

Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:45 pm to
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Watch the video. If you still think I'm making up facts, then you're just disingenuous.

We could both watch it 20 times together in the same room. After each watch, you'll whine that he said words the cop didn't like and deserved to be arrested. I'll laugh, then ask if you're sincerely serious, and the pattern will repeat.

I get it. You're an emotional guy. There's nothing wrong with that, but don't expect all of society to agree with your emotional form of law enforcement.
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
6607 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:46 pm to
Tyreek Hill disagrees with you.

ESPN Link
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:49 pm to
Hill shouldn't have to say he could've done things differently. He did not do a thing illegal after the stop.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:49 pm to
Tyreek has always been a problem
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
33970 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:50 pm to
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Tyreek Hill disagrees with you.


Here's what I learned from that...

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Hill also said that Torres' (the officer involved) legal representation reached out to him and Collins in an effort to apologize but that the offer was declined.


Oh yeah, they getting sued...
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