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re: VA. School demands teen remove American flags from his truck.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 5:56 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 8/25/23 at 5:56 pm to lsupride87
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“Large flags or banners are not allowed to be flown or displayed on vehicles due to their distractive nature. Please be assured that we proudly fly the American flag throughout the school.”
As has been posted many times in this thread, “large” isn’t clearly defined. Leaving it strictly to the school’s interpretation, they can pick and choose which flags to eliminate. In the student’s case, they chose to eliminate the American flag. Period. End of discussion.
The fact that they hand out free flags and appear to be patriotic is completely beside the point in this case.
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 5:57 pm to High C
As I said, if you feel very strongly about large flags not being allowed, fry your heart out about it
But if you think it’s about the school hating America or the flag you are a snowflake want to be victim fool that ignores every single fact here
Your choice
But if you think it’s about the school hating America or the flag you are a snowflake want to be victim fool that ignores every single fact here
Your choice
Posted on 8/25/23 at 6:10 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 8/25/23 at 6:15 pm to lsupride87
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But if you think it’s about the school hating America or the flag you are a snowflake want to be victim fool that ignores every single fact here
I don’t think it’s about the school hating America or the flag at all. It’s not about facts, it’s about your interpretation of their motivation in asking him to remove the flags. You assume that they asked him to remove them because they were too large, and, therefore a distraction. One could also assume that their motivation was that they interpreted the flags not as a distraction, but as a provocation. In either case, we have no way of knowing their true motivation.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 6:19 pm to High C
This school baked sounds make reasonable than damn near anyone in the country. Find out kid was offended thinking it was about the flag and not respecting military, so the school offers all students a free American flag. That’s a great adult nature way to handle this, that would be completely lost on damn near every school system in America
But the kid wanted nothing to do with that, so clearly he wasn’t using the flag just to honor his family military history.
But the kid wanted nothing to do with that, so clearly he wasn’t using the flag just to honor his family military history.
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 8/25/23 at 6:22 pm to lsupride87
Now you’re assuming the motivation of the kid. You could very well be right in both assumptions. You could also be wrong in one or both. Neither you nor I can truly make that call with any surety.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 6:23 pm to High C
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You assume that they asked him to remove them because they were too large, and, therefore a distraction.
Yeah, that's what they said, and no one has provided any legitimate reason to believe they're lying. Why should we assume otherwise? Because muh rights?
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 8/25/23 at 6:25 pm to h0bnail
Posted on 8/25/23 at 6:27 pm to High C
If the students true motivation for the flags was to show his appreciation for his family military history, why wouldn’t he accept the free flags the school was giving him to display?
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 8/25/23 at 7:42 pm to RATeamWannabe
You got absolutely banged on by everyone in this thread. 500 downvotes is maybe the most on site history. Are a you a tranny?
Posted on 8/25/23 at 8:21 pm to Riverside
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Cool, but you’re wrong. Read Tinker v. Des Moines.
You have to look at Tinker through the lens of Morse v Frederick, not just the overarching holding but the whole text. Morse is an opinion where Thomas made the specific argument that the Tinker standard should be overturned outright and specifically that the right to free speech does not apply to students.
I don't see any intent to prevent the display of the American flag unless it is displayed in a way that could or is distracting (after the or is for Tinker). This is especially true given the fact the school displays the flag and especially given the pledge is done daily (based on info in the thread). I think an attorney for the district would hammer the safety distraction element over the educational distraction. There is a point a flag in the back of a truck can be large enough that any reasonable person would see it as a safety distraction. Where this rises to that point is a legitimate question.
As an aside, I think for public schools that require a generic uniform that small (ambiguous but I ain't trying to write code here) American flag pin should be one of the few exceptions made. That would likely be beset on all sides as untenable.
As for Tinker I don't like the reactive nature of the holding and I do not think students should be afforded all the 1st amendment protections, I gotta go with Thomas on this.
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