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re: West Memphis Three Case. Anyone still think they were guilty?

Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:20 pm to
Posted by AlbertMeansWell
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:20 pm to
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I grew up in the county in NE Ark where they were 1st tried & know a deputy that took Miskelly back & forth from court to his cell. He said Miskelly went into great detail about what they did to those kids


BULLLLSHIIIIIITTT
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37995 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:24 pm to
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So Hobbs was the stepdad of one of the kids killed and a hair that could be a DNA match to him was found in the shoelace that was used to bind one of the kids correct?



Correct. There's other more circumstantial evidence implicating him as well. The documentaries interview several people close to the family (and i think a couple relations as well) who testify that he was abusive and basically hated his step son. No alibi for where he was when the boys were killed. The one he did give didnt match up with the time frame, etc. According to those interviewed his own relatives think he's guilty but that's obviously not hard proof.

That's a half assed explanation of it but there's plenty of sketchy circumstances documented out there indicating he was guilty. For me the hair in the binding is the most overt.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 9:26 pm
Posted by Unit225
Prairieville
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:40 pm to
Go read about the "Hobbs Family Secret" Hobbs family secret
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 9:52 pm
Posted by CBLSU316
Far Right of Left
Member since Jun 2008
11424 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:41 pm to
Yeah....I've seen all the PL's, west of Memphis and Devils Knot (which was a huge POS).........


I just can't conclude who it believe did it.......
Posted by Impotent Waffle
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:50 pm to
My uncle was Jessie Misskelley’s lawyer until 2008.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17133 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:33 pm to
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Also Terry Hobbs nephew admitted to his friends that his uncle killed the West Memphis 3.


If this case has taught us nothing else, has it not taught us to treat eye witness claims, particularly second hand ones, with tremendous skepticism?

Hobbs is a legitimate suspect and it's a shame he wasn't viewed as one along with the three boys back in '93. But there's not enough evidence to support him as the killer either. This case lacks evidence and has many strange and eccentric personalities that deserve a look as potential suspects but can lead to the original trap of jumping to conclusions. I'd say plenty of people were pretty confident it was Mark Byers at one time too. Falling into the exact same mindset that was supposedly behind the wrongful conviction of the WM3.

It's really a fascinating case. And due the heinous nature of this crime it's remarkable that it's likely to go unsolved.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:34 pm to
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My uncle was Jessie Misskelley’s lawyer until 2008.


AND.........?
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37995 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:35 pm to
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My uncle was Jessie Misskelley’s lawyer until 2008.


Dan Stidham? I had dinner with him when he visited LSU a few years ago
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:41 pm to
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My uncle was Jessie Misskelley’s lawyer until 2008.


What's your take on Misskelley's guilt or innocence?
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17133 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:44 pm to
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BULLLLSHIIIIIITTT



Perhaps, but Misskelly did make confessions outside of the first that was reported to have been coerced. And I read that he made comments off the record to law enforcement after his conviction as well.

Here is an audio recording of a confession he made to authorities AFTER his conviction. I'm not sure how someone can say he was "coerced" or put through the ringer to elicit a false confession here. The only argument I can see being valid is simply that he's a ruh-tard and thus nothing he says whatsoever can be taken seriously but that's a bit of a reach.

LINK

These boys damn well may not have done it, but it wasn't just some hillbilly conspiracy to convict them because they were goth kids in hickland.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37995 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:56 pm to
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Here is an audio recording of a confession he made to authorities AFTER his conviction. I'm not sure how someone can say he was "coerced" or put through the ringer to elicit a false confession here. The only argument I can see being valid is simply that he's a ruh-tard and thus nothing he says whatsoever can be taken seriously but that's a bit of a reach.


This does away with all that. That 'confession' was yielded by telling him if he confessed (and implcated Baldwin and Echols) he'd get a lighter sentence.

LINK

" Misskelley's police car confessions led to one of the most audacious incidents in the case. The prosecution tried to arrange a deal with Jessie, to reduce his sentence in exchange for his testimony in the upcoming trials. First, they met with Jessie's lawyers. They remained unconvinced. While it might be in Jessie's best interest to testify in terms of a reduced sentence, Stidham believed in his client's innocence. He could not suborn perjury. The prosecution pleaded with Jessie's father to convince him with the same lack of success. "

A head-on assault not working, the prosecution proceeded to talk to Jessie without his lawyers' consent. After some preliminary interviews, the police transported Jessie from his prison to a jail in Corning to be nearer to the upcoming trials. There, another taped interview was planned. Dan Stidham later stated he learned about the transfer on the evening news. Together with his law partner Greg Crow, they rushed to Corning to intervene on behalf of their client. They insisted their client not make a statement. Stidham called Judge Burnett at home to stop the proceedings or to delay it until Misskelley had a psychiatric exam that had been requested earlier in the week. Burnett described receiving the call. "Y'all were asking me to make a ruling from my den where I was watching TV in my underwear." [Judge Burnett, February 22, 1994 Hearing]
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 11:03 pm
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17133 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:08 pm to
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This does away with all that


I wouldn't say it "does away with it." It can obviously be spun by either side to suit their purposes because the guy is borderline retarded, but the point is that it wasn't coerced under duress or threat nor withdrawn from some 12 hour interrogation session. He received advice from his attorneys BEFORE going on record. From the Paradise Lost documentaries though, you wouldn't know anything about this. You would think his only confession was the initial one where he was caught off guard and harangued off tape for hours.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this is some definitive proof of guilt for reasons we've already outlined, but it does challenge the one sided, simplistic narrative that the prosecution was convicting based on revulsion at these boys for being "different" and without any reasonable evidence. The reality is clearly more complicated than that.
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