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re: Worker's body visible at Hard Rock site
Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:48 pm to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:48 pm to SidewalkTiger
That poor man.
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:49 pm to SidewalkTiger
Cousin is a Parajumper with a handful of purple hearts, and a buncha other awards and metals, and shite that I just don't know anything about.
He recently received the Silver Star for his actions rescuing a pinned down SF unit who was getting their asses kicked, and had a 4 star general call him and his unit a hero. He was shot, took massive quantities of shrapnel, was directly responsible for killing 118 enemy fighters in this one single battle, and a buncha other stuff, but the shite they did to get TO those boys and get them and their wounded out was nothing short of amazing. (The reason I know of his actions in this particular battle is because of the SS ceremony and some in depth articles on internet of their actions.)
Yeah I'm bragging a little, but by all accounts, his unit in particular is made up of some bad mf'ers who are highly sought after & requested by name in the special operations segment of the military to deploy out with Seals, etc. on spec op (and non-spec op) missions.
PJ's are not medics, they are tactical rescue specialists, and in certain civilian situations when all hope is lost, when the best are needed to go into the jungles, up the mountains, into the water, through the air, land or sea, the PJ's are called upon because they are so damned capable of getting to you and getting you out.
So anyone saying that nothing could be done to get him out or covered up, I don't agree with. I guarantee you that if the mayor/city/companies wanted to get that man off that building, or at the very least cover up his body in a more respectable manner, if it were at all feasible, a PJ unit would get that shite done.
I'm not saying it's a real possibility, or that the military would actually even entertain the concept, but to say "nothing can be done" I strongly disagree with: There are people capable of doing shite that we can't fathom and who have the technology and training to back them up.
But TBH, I feel like at this point, the companies and entities who are at fault are at a point of "meh," because they can't see how another couple months of him being exposed is gonna mitigate for the absolute arse reaming his family is going to give them, as they should, but to any who say there's "no way," I reply with, "bullshite."
Unless it requires breaking the laws of nature (e.g., gravity, etc.), there's always a way.
He recently received the Silver Star for his actions rescuing a pinned down SF unit who was getting their asses kicked, and had a 4 star general call him and his unit a hero. He was shot, took massive quantities of shrapnel, was directly responsible for killing 118 enemy fighters in this one single battle, and a buncha other stuff, but the shite they did to get TO those boys and get them and their wounded out was nothing short of amazing. (The reason I know of his actions in this particular battle is because of the SS ceremony and some in depth articles on internet of their actions.)
Yeah I'm bragging a little, but by all accounts, his unit in particular is made up of some bad mf'ers who are highly sought after & requested by name in the special operations segment of the military to deploy out with Seals, etc. on spec op (and non-spec op) missions.
PJ's are not medics, they are tactical rescue specialists, and in certain civilian situations when all hope is lost, when the best are needed to go into the jungles, up the mountains, into the water, through the air, land or sea, the PJ's are called upon because they are so damned capable of getting to you and getting you out.
So anyone saying that nothing could be done to get him out or covered up, I don't agree with. I guarantee you that if the mayor/city/companies wanted to get that man off that building, or at the very least cover up his body in a more respectable manner, if it were at all feasible, a PJ unit would get that shite done.
I'm not saying it's a real possibility, or that the military would actually even entertain the concept, but to say "nothing can be done" I strongly disagree with: There are people capable of doing shite that we can't fathom and who have the technology and training to back them up.
But TBH, I feel like at this point, the companies and entities who are at fault are at a point of "meh," because they can't see how another couple months of him being exposed is gonna mitigate for the absolute arse reaming his family is going to give them, as they should, but to any who say there's "no way," I reply with, "bullshite."
Unless it requires breaking the laws of nature (e.g., gravity, etc.), there's always a way.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:50 pm to Bigbee Hills
quote:
I'm not saying it's a real possibility, or that the military would actually even entertain the concept, but to say "nothing can be done" I strongly disagree with: There are people capable of doing shite that we can't fathom and who have the technology and training to back them up.
god you morons act like this guy is just laying on the ground in the middle of the top floor. how can someone be this autistic? "i'm not saying it's possible, but it's definitely not impossible"
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:50 pm to MarinaTigerEsq
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The building fell- a prima facie case he did something wrong. For evidence, see every successfully constructed building.
In his landowner role he had nothing to do with the building. Other than owning the dirt it sat on.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:50 pm to Bigbee Hills
Major props to your cousin but wtf are you talking about?
Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:54 pm to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
how'd they get all the bodies and survivors out of this building?
Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:55 pm to Bigbee Hills
quote:
I'm not saying it's a real possibility, or that the military would actually even entertain the concept, but to say "nothing can be done" I strongly disagree with
your cousin sounds cool but this sentence kind of contradicts itself, no?
also idk if you've seen the picture, but getting him out would be extremely difficult. not saying they shouldn't try, but it looks like one of those halloween decorations with the legs coming out the trunk of a sedan.
you start yanking and pulling on that shite, you might be pulling out pieces of the guy rather than the guy. unfortunately. it's a fricked up situation
Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:56 pm to fightin tigers
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In his landowner role he had nothing to do with the building. Other than owning the dirt it sat on.
So these plans were thrust upon him without a choice? He didn’t stand to profit from the building? You don’t get to forgo due diligence because you’re a rich guy who wants to build without knowing any technical stuff.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:57 pm to HT713
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idk if you've seen the picture
i have not. can u send me the pic mpq?
Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:57 pm to Bigbee Hills
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tactical rescue specialists,
If it were a rescue this would be a lot more viable option.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:59 pm to Deep Purple Haze
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have not. can u send me the pic mpq?
You need a ticket to see it...
Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:59 pm to MarinaTigerEsq
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So these plans were thrust upon him without a choice?
He's not the designer of record nor a licensed engineer. He can't mandate design calculations
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He didn’t stand to profit from the building?
What does that have to do with anything?
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You don’t get to forgo due diligence because you’re a rich guy who wants to build without knowing any technical stuff.
As the owner under almost every construction contract, you are not legally required to perform "due dilligence" in regards to the validity of the design. Hence my first comment regarding the engineer of record
Posted on 1/23/20 at 1:01 pm to Deep Purple Haze
texted them to you, not sure if we're allowed to post them here. extremely morbid shite tbh
Posted on 1/23/20 at 1:02 pm to tgrbaitn08
Well, for one, thats a standalone building
Posted on 1/23/20 at 1:06 pm to hubertcumberdale
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Well, for one, thats a standalone building
And they didn't get everyone out before demolition.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 1:06 pm to HT713
read a fascinating tweet about this property today
LINK
choicest quote from that, which I absolutely love:
LINK
quote:
It's worth remembering what happened on the site of the Hard Rock collapse 60 years ago: the beginning of sit-ins for Civil Rights in New Orleans, at the Woolworth's lunch counter.
choicest quote from that, which I absolutely love:
quote:
Maybe those who forget history aren't just doomed to repeat it. Maybe they're just fricking doomed.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 1:08 pm to Bigbee Hills
quote:Your cousin's initials are (nevermind I removed this)? excellent job of directing air strikes...
He recently received the Silver Star for his actions rescuing a pinned down SF u
but
a rescue operation, it is worth risking life and limb to attempt - a recovery operation is different. Also the amount of debris on top of the deceased combined with the instability of the part of the building itself - is why the body is still where it is.
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 1/23/20 at 1:08 pm to HT713
That works, except no one forgot what was there 
Posted on 1/23/20 at 1:09 pm to HT713
I have not seen it, I admit, but I did say that, "at the very least, they can do something to get him covered up."
What I mean by "not a real possibility" is that if the-powers-that-be didn't give the go ahead for individuals outside of the civilian population to come help, then in that capacity, the possibility is nil, obviously.
But mainly, what my post was talking about is "the big picture" narrative: To say that the guy can't be covered up- he just can't, it's impossible" I don't agree with.
Similar to the oil spill, that mine collapsing and trapping the workers, the kids in the cave, I love when pea-brained people say, "nah, there's no way," and then the kind of people who make the world go 'round step up to the plate and we get to watch the show.
But frick it, this is the OT: reason and logic just pisses people off. (Not talking about you, though.)
What I mean by "not a real possibility" is that if the-powers-that-be didn't give the go ahead for individuals outside of the civilian population to come help, then in that capacity, the possibility is nil, obviously.
But mainly, what my post was talking about is "the big picture" narrative: To say that the guy can't be covered up- he just can't, it's impossible" I don't agree with.
Similar to the oil spill, that mine collapsing and trapping the workers, the kids in the cave, I love when pea-brained people say, "nah, there's no way," and then the kind of people who make the world go 'round step up to the plate and we get to watch the show.
But frick it, this is the OT: reason and logic just pisses people off. (Not talking about you, though.)
Posted on 1/23/20 at 1:10 pm to fightin tigers
quote:
That works, except no one forgot what was there
I'm a carpet-baggin' texas transplant who's only lived here a few years, so it was interesting to me
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