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re: Dead jellyfish washing ashore along Miss. coast
Posted on 5/3/10 at 2:50 pm to MSTiger33
Posted on 5/3/10 at 2:50 pm to MSTiger33
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Nobody is disounting the lives of the oilmen.
no shite.
i don't understand reactions like the one above that insinuates such. Or is it more of the same old retarded politicizing of every major event?
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 2:55 pm to MSTiger33
Not to take away from the pain and loss of anyone who died - it is truly tragic and my heart hurts for the friends and family members of those who lost their lives...
That said, one of the things that I think people struggle with is that the people who lost lives, or who work on oil rigs have the choice of deciding what they want to do with their lives, and they realize the risks they want to take, and know full well what they are. Sea life, be it from the jellyfish to the otters, to the dolphins, and the people who live on the coast who depend on these things have absolutely no control over the decisions others make that have impacted their entire way of living.
That said, one of the things that I think people struggle with is that the people who lost lives, or who work on oil rigs have the choice of deciding what they want to do with their lives, and they realize the risks they want to take, and know full well what they are. Sea life, be it from the jellyfish to the otters, to the dolphins, and the people who live on the coast who depend on these things have absolutely no control over the decisions others make that have impacted their entire way of living.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 2:58 pm to MSTiger33
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How much you want to bet that these guys fudged their tax returns?
So then frick 'em.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 3:01 pm to TigerFan1977
I was out at the beach in Pensacola/ Navarre this weekend, and there are all kinds of blue jellyfish washing up.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 3:04 pm to MSTiger33
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The jellyfish and sea turtles are the start of the biggest ecological clusterfrick to hit the gulf coast.
Not trying to discount what could happen, but is there any evidence that the oil actually caused this?
Posted on 5/3/10 at 3:31 pm to BROffshoreTigerFan
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Not trying to discount what could happen, but is there any evidence that the oil actually caused this?
Won't know for sure until the necropsy reports come back. However, I think it is a safe bet that it is due to the oil. Sea turtles and jellyfish are not really known for their speed. I am of the opinion that they were overtaken by the cloud of oil in the water. However, I could be way off base.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 3:35 pm to MSTiger33
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Sea turtles and jellyfish are not really known for their speed. I am of the opinion that they were overtaken by the cloud of oil in the water.
If that is the case, how did they beat the oil into shore by many miles?
Posted on 5/3/10 at 3:49 pm to MSTiger33
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However, I think it is a safe bet that it is due to the oil.
I understand the view point, and if this is the case, it clearly is the worst case actually getting even worse.
I just want the facts to come out before we start jumping on BP, or any other company that could be blamed for this. Big oil (and oil in general) already has a bad rep, an unearned bad rep.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 4:31 pm to Dusty Bottoms
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If that is the case, how did they beat the oil into shore by many miles?
I was wondering about this, me...
Posted on 5/3/10 at 4:49 pm to tigerdup07
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in case you jellyfish lovers are concerned, 11 OF THE FINEST OILMEN DIED
Very good point that Many are seeming to forget.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 4:56 pm to shaunk128
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Won't know for sure until the necropsy reports come back. However, I think it is a safe bet that it is due to the oil. Sea turtles and jellyfish are not really known for their speed. I am of the opinion that they were overtaken by the cloud of oil in the water.
Cant speak for the turtles, but I am quite sure that if Jellyfish washed ashore and it was because of oil, that oil would have been spotted on or around them. How could they be overtaken by oil and then seperate from the oil to wash up on the beach ahead of the oil?
Posted on 5/3/10 at 5:22 pm to shaunk128
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Jellyfish washed ashore and it was because of oil, that oil would have been spotted on or around them. How could they be overtaken by oil and then seperate from the oil to wash up on the beach ahead of the oil?
they can die from eating toxic food sources, as in plankton with too much oil exposure. We'll know more when lab results are back, but you don't need pools of oil to prove that the oil played a factor.
This post was edited on 5/3/10 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 5/3/10 at 5:29 pm to el tigre
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they can die from eating toxic food sources, as in plankton with too much oil exposure. We'll know more when lab results are back, but you don't need pools of oil to prove that the oil played a factor.
And the plankton got away from the oil too? We are talking about things that drift in the currents and tides. They will all end up at the same place if it was oil related. Including the oil.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 5:33 pm to shaunk128
why are you assuming that things that are exposed to oil die immediately upon contact with oil? they can ingest oil, swim away, become sick, and die.
eta: a huge swath of oil in the gulf can also impact food supplies. So much of this is intertwined. We just need to see what happens without jumping to dismiss anything at this point.
like i said, requiring something to be covered in oil is kind of silly,imo. we need to wait for lab results to decide.
eta: a huge swath of oil in the gulf can also impact food supplies. So much of this is intertwined. We just need to see what happens without jumping to dismiss anything at this point.
like i said, requiring something to be covered in oil is kind of silly,imo. we need to wait for lab results to decide.
This post was edited on 5/3/10 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 5/3/10 at 5:40 pm to el tigre
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why are you assuming that things that are exposed to oil die immediately upon contact with oil? they can ingest oil, swim away, become sick, and die.
I am not on here to get into a pissing match with you. I just know that Jellyfish use natural currents of the ocean to move around. The same currents that are moving the oil.
I was just stating an opinion that I had and I will leave this topic alone.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 5:44 pm to shaunk128
Whats new man. Every time Ive been to the beach I have seen dead Jelly Fish.
I wouldnt put to much into this.
PS - As far as Im concerned jelly fish are a nuisance. Only good one is a dead one.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 5:46 pm to ItTakesAThief
Don't know if anyone's mentioned it yet but the toxicology reports on the turtles came back negative for petro.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 6:11 pm to Decatur
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Don't know if anyone's mentioned it yet but the toxicology reports on the turtles came back negative for petro.
Link?
Posted on 5/3/10 at 7:04 pm to BROffshoreTigerFan
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Necropsies completed on five of the 25 dead sea turtles found along Mississippi beaches in the past few days show no evidence of oil killing the reptiles.
Brian Gorman of the National Marine Fisheries Service in Gulfport, Miss., said Monday that no evidence of oil or contamination has been found. But he says that doesn't mean further analysis won't reveal something.
The carcasses are badly decomposed. Gorman says necropsies on the remaining turtles will be performed later.
LINK
Posted on 5/3/10 at 8:15 pm to Decatur
Thanks Decatur!!
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