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re: For those opposed to offshore Oil Drilling
Posted on 5/13/10 at 6:32 am to back9Tiger
Posted on 5/13/10 at 6:32 am to back9Tiger
No they are not willing to give up the things oil gives them even if they say they do.
Also, we in Louisiana just as soon move because without seafood(you need oil and gas to get seafood on a commerical scale)or oil and gas Louisiana would be finished.
Also, we in Louisiana just as soon move because without seafood(you need oil and gas to get seafood on a commerical scale)or oil and gas Louisiana would be finished.
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Posted on 5/13/10 at 7:08 am to back9Tiger
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Open up other areas where we can get to easier and safer to reach oil.the industry has a very safe record as a whole. Much better than the refining side..
I agree 100%. And calling me a liberal is very
. I only disagree with drilling deeper than "we can fix" problems. You have to separate deep sea drilling from the other drilling that you can fix problems with. If you dont you come up with idiotic statements like "were talking about offshore drilling as a whole knucklehead". There are a lot of people and those people are growing in number daily, that oppose drilling deeper than we can handle.
You including the two together (reg offshore and deep sea drilling) makes the entire off-shore drilling a target - which is what the liberals want you to do.
And your deep sea drilling is going to make a lot of people environmentalists, which is probably the worst thing that could happen.
Posted on 5/13/10 at 7:37 am to jeffsdad
The US offshore drilling map precludes us from getting easier to get oil.
No drilling on the WC. No drilling from Alabama down Florida and all the way up the EC.
No drilling on the WC. No drilling from Alabama down Florida and all the way up the EC.
Posted on 5/13/10 at 7:43 am to LSUAlum2001
That's what I'm saying LSUalum.... our own short sighted government along with the mass of "not in my backyarders" have made deepwater a neccesity.
No one wants to give up anything yet they see the spin doctored coverage from the National News Media and think it is ALL this way.
Open it up. hold it accountable. make is safer and let's stop making our country dependent on oil from the axis of evil....
Then one day when technology catches up and it makes sense to use alternatives, do it.
For now.... Nuclear power it is our saving grace in addition to domestic onshore natural gas. Cleaner burning, let's go to CNG cars. Let's get the infrastructure for it going. there are possibilities but this country is not stepping up.
Just more not in my backyard but don't you dare tell me I have to give up my way of life.
No one wants to give up anything yet they see the spin doctored coverage from the National News Media and think it is ALL this way.
Open it up. hold it accountable. make is safer and let's stop making our country dependent on oil from the axis of evil....
Then one day when technology catches up and it makes sense to use alternatives, do it.
For now.... Nuclear power it is our saving grace in addition to domestic onshore natural gas. Cleaner burning, let's go to CNG cars. Let's get the infrastructure for it going. there are possibilities but this country is not stepping up.
Just more not in my backyard but don't you dare tell me I have to give up my way of life.
Posted on 5/13/10 at 7:46 am to jeffsdad
Pollution stats:
3 percent comes from drilling
75 percent from tankers
The remainder comes from refineries and pipelines.
I say we expand domestic drilling.
3 percent comes from drilling
75 percent from tankers
The remainder comes from refineries and pipelines.
I say we expand domestic drilling.
Posted on 5/13/10 at 7:57 am to YatTigah
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that committee also learned that the BOP had been modified in ways that apparently left BP befuddled, slowing their efforts to try to activate it after the accident, though Transocean President Steve Newman said the modifications had been made at BP's request and expense.
you have to know some details about this to properly call BS here. i understand the situation, the modification was to take the lowest set of pipe rams and flip them upside down to make them "test rams". BOP rams are designed to hold pressure from a single direction, and the rams in service for well control purposes will only hold pressure from below. BOP stacks are kitted out w/ more rams than are required by the MMS & API to safely drill, so it is a common practice to take the lowest most set of rams and flip them such that they hold pressure from above.
In doing this, when you have to conduct your 14 day BOP test, all you have to do is stop what you're doing, close the test rams and proceed w/ your BOP test against them. This saves you several hours (the exact amount depending upon the water depth of the BOP) when BOP testing -- since you don't have to pull out of the hole and run a test plug that will seal beneath the wellhead to test against.
i guarantee you BP knew these rams were in a test position, because that information has to be provided to the MMS as part of the permit to drill process (stack configuration). And no, there's probably no chance they would have held pressure in a well control situation, but they're not designed to.
that said, i think when they were down there w/ the ROV trying to get this shut in they tried everything, closing the test rams included, even if it was a long shot.
This post was edited on 5/13/10 at 8:00 am
Posted on 5/13/10 at 7:58 am to tgrbaitn08
Unless other states want to open up their coasts to drilling we will be stuck with deep sea operations. And don't think just because we stop here that we would not have a chance of a spill. If a Mexican rig in the Bay of Campeche ruptured we would have oil from Texas to Alabama.
Posted on 5/13/10 at 8:07 am to back9Tiger
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Are you willing to significantly alter your way of life? the American way of life?
I'm confused , How is acting like a swarm of Locusts ever a way of life? If we don't manage our finances we get into debt and that's no fun. If we don't manage our time we get behind, that's no way to live. If we don't do a better job of managing our natural resources we can kiss any way of life good by. I'm really not being sarcastic or trying to over simplify the global issue. but do you really believe the right amount of effort has been placed in developing alternate energy sources????
Posted on 5/13/10 at 8:11 am to Tommy Patel
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but do you really believe the right amount of effort has been placed in developing alternate energy sources????
Yes, I do. Every major and supermajor as well as a plethora of small firms are in wind, ethanol, and hydro. It is also subsidized by the government to make it attractive to develop. That is the main reason it is a multi billion dollar industry.
Technology has not caught up yet to make it economical and feasible. Look at onshore shale natural gas drilling. Took decades in development of technology, horizontal drilling, fracturing techniques, etc to make it happen.
Oil is here to stay for the near term and longer. We should be doing this, that and the other (expanding drilling, alternatives development, nuclear, etc).
Posted on 5/13/10 at 8:11 am to Tommy Patel
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but do you really believe the right amount of effort has been placed in developing alternate energy sources????
What is the right amount? Do you know how much effort or money is being spent on alternative energy?
Posted on 5/13/10 at 8:13 am to RPC4LSU
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Do you know how much effort or money is being spent on alternative energy
Billions.
Posted on 5/13/10 at 8:21 am to back9Tiger
Do you work for BP? Exxon?
Posted on 5/13/10 at 8:23 am to BS
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Do you work for BP? Exxon?
Who are you referring that question to?
Posted on 5/13/10 at 8:24 am to back9Tiger
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Posted on 5/13/10 at 8:35 am to BS
No they are my clients. In fact, Shell, Chevron, ConocoPhillips, Murphy E&P, Apache, Anadarko, ExxonMobil and a laundry list of independent E&P's are as well.
I am actually a headhunter, but computer engineer by degree. Spent ten years in upstream and downstream and talk to engineers by the dozens everyday for those ten years. Read a ton on my own to educate myself when talking with engineers so I think I am a bit more educated than most other recruiters. It is a passion of mine and spend a lot of time in these companies engineering offices so you hear and learn alot. Now I run a division in a 60m company that handles energy exclusively.
Don't beat me up too bad now you know I am a recruiter :)
I am actually a headhunter, but computer engineer by degree. Spent ten years in upstream and downstream and talk to engineers by the dozens everyday for those ten years. Read a ton on my own to educate myself when talking with engineers so I think I am a bit more educated than most other recruiters. It is a passion of mine and spend a lot of time in these companies engineering offices so you hear and learn alot. Now I run a division in a 60m company that handles energy exclusively.
Don't beat me up too bad now you know I am a recruiter :)
This post was edited on 5/13/10 at 8:38 am
Posted on 5/13/10 at 8:40 am to back9Tiger
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Yes, I do. Every major and supermajor as well as a plethora of small firms are in wind, ethanol, and hydro. It is also subsidized by the government to make it attractive to develop. That is the main reason it is a multi billion dollar industry. Technology has not caught up yet to make it economical and feasible. Look at onshore shale natural gas drilling. Took decades in development of technology, horizontal drilling, fracturing techniques, etc to make it happen. Oil is here to stay for the near term and longer. We should be doing this, that and the other (expanding drilling, alternatives development, nuclear, etc).
wow impressive
Posted on 5/13/10 at 9:19 am to BROffshoreTigerFan
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2008 report
That is good info BR, thanks. Those numbers don't mean much since they don't take hours worked into account, though. You need to be able to compare rates, like you said.
I was hoping for something like: 1 out of every 400 tankers has had a spill but only 1 out of the thousands of wells has ever had a spill. Or once every 5 years a tanker leaks but this is the first major leak of a sea well in 30 years.
Posted on 5/13/10 at 9:23 am to Tommy Patel
Yea, lets use one of our major food sources as fuel. 
What happens to all those batteries that are used once they are past their life cycles?
What happens to all those batteries that are used once they are past their life cycles?
Posted on 5/13/10 at 9:43 am to back9Tiger
I am willing to give up giving up. Your post attempts to say its hopeless.
If we put resources into it, we can do what Bush43 said he would do, in his inaugural. He spoke then that he would put $6 billion into alt energy research. He didnt. He spent it on wars.
if we made it a national priority, like the Kennedy moon walk, we could develop alternatives.
One alternative that Canada is working on, is the use of microbes to break down otherwise unavailable or expensive to process tar sand. That same process could be used in Pennsylvania where they left 90% of the oil in the rock and sand.
Similar in Oklahoma. That's just one example.
Currently they are saying it will take 10 years of research to get the tar sand productive using microbes.
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