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re: Oil field people: How much will getting the annulars closed help?

Posted on 5/3/10 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 1:51 pm to
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they never really knew how much was leaking in the first place. they just had to throw some numbers out there. hence the reason the numbers were so way off.

some were saying 5000
some said 20000
some said 5 x that amount

no way to calculate.


Actually BP should have a pretty good handle on how much the well was flowing. They would logged the well at that point and should be able to guage what the well would flow within a reasonable range. I think they threw out some worst case estimates of 20k per day just to CYA a little.
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 1:52 pm to
So if they clamped off one of the leaks... and if they clamp off other leaks, wouldn't that eventually build up pressure from the inside of the well, and wouldn't they just blow again?

Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 1:55 pm to
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So if they clamped off one of the leaks... and if they clamp off other leaks, wouldn't that eventually build up pressure from the inside of the well, and wouldn't they just blow again?


once the valves are closed, this will give the other rig ample time to complete the relief well.

it will hold and nothing will blow. hopefully.


ever kinked your water hose?
Posted by mguari2
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 1:56 pm to
With the annular closed it may be possible to run in a packoff into the exposed drill pipe and shut the flow. If done, worst case is they lose all integrity at the subsea wellhead, because i have a feeling the leak path is in the annulus behind the production casing via a failed seal assembly. Best case is the frac point at the previous shoe is reached and you are left with an underground blowout, which still must be killed with a relief well.
Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
8969 posts
Posted on 5/3/10 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

So if they clamped off one of the leaks... and if they clamp off other leaks, wouldn't that eventually build up pressure from the inside of the well, and wouldn't they just blow again?


Yeah pressure would build. Dont know if it would blow again but yeah thats definitely not a permanent solution. Just a temporary fix until they can plug this well with the relief well.
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 2:00 pm to
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ever kinked your water hose?


Yep, while the faucet was on full blast, and it popped a seam like a fat man splitting his pants. But that's just happened once, and it was my neighbor's cheap hose.

Good news though... I hope this works. I hate everyone is having to go through this- on both sides.



Posted by mguari2
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 2:04 pm to


Piston shoves up on that black rubber doughnut (packing unit) and squeezes the pipe to form an effective seal.
Posted by SlidellBammer
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

With the annular closed it may be possible to run in a packoff into the exposed drill pipe and shut the flow. If done, worst case is they lose all integrity at the subsea wellhead, because i have a feeling the leak path is in the annulus behind the production casing via a failed seal assembly. Best case is the frac point at the previous shoe is reached and you are left with an underground blowout, which still must be killed with a relief well.


I can't believe that I've read enough about this over the past several days to actually have an idea of what this means..
Posted by Alatgr
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 3:20 pm to
Well, this is why it wasn't reported earlier.

It's bullshite

Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
8969 posts
Posted on 5/3/10 at 3:22 pm to
Geezus BP get your shite together!!
Posted by oilfieldtiger
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 3:54 pm to
i knew it was too good to be true. the idea that the annular rubber, after that much unrestricted flow, would still be in good enough shape to hold pressure seemed a bit too far fetched. but i was hopeful.
Posted by LSU2001
Cut Off, La.
Member since Nov 2007
2388 posts
Posted on 5/3/10 at 4:04 pm to
shite, shite and frick. The BP bastards need to get their shite together and at least control what their execs are spouting. frick the spin just give an honest assessment for better or worse.
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