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Politics embroil gulf research grants
Posted on 6/28/10 at 8:59 am
Posted on 6/28/10 at 8:59 am
Here is the article I mentioned last week that would be coming out soon. They were at LSU for several days the past 2 weeks. Pretty PC article in comparison to whats going on. Very political at LSU internally and of course with governors office and the feds.
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Posted on 6/28/10 at 9:44 am to Mudminnow
Thanks. Very interesting read.
Posted on 6/28/10 at 10:07 am to CougarBait
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the White House ordered BP to consult with Gulf Coast governors before awarding research grants.
I wish BP would say frick you Mr. President. This is money BP is giving that it doesn't have to give. We will give it to whoever we want to give it too. Shut your yap and mind your own fricking business.
Posted on 6/28/10 at 10:22 am to omegaman66
Yeah! It really sucks that Louisiana may get more research money that Maryland to learn about our its estuarys. What an a-hole the President is looking out for the states in the country he represents that have been the most affected. Shame on him!
Posted on 6/28/10 at 10:25 am to omegaman66
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This is money BP is giving that it doesn't have to give. We will give it to whoever we want to give it too
Could be, but they can write off EVERY PENNY they give out. Why bite the hand that feeds you?
Posted on 6/28/10 at 10:27 am to lashinala
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What an a-hole the President is looking out for the states in the country he represents that have been the most affected. Shame on him!
How is Cornell the most affected????
Posted on 6/28/10 at 10:31 am to omegaman66
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How is Cornell the most affected????
Not directly, but Cornell and LSU probably know more about coastal birds than most other universities....just a hunch.
Posted on 6/28/10 at 10:33 am to omegaman66
This crap is why I get labeled as a BP sympathizer. BP donates half a billion dollars that they could have kept. Obama incorrectly believes he should have some fricking imput on who they give money too. And now BP is the bad guy for taking a tax break as if that tax break will make them more than the donation cost them.
Posted on 6/28/10 at 10:34 am to lashinala
LSU school of the coast and env, woodshole, and several other institution will be collaboraters. Each offers something another school dept lacks.
Feds holding it up, and Riley and Jindal are too since the vast majority of scientists at LSU have opposed his berm idea.
Although 5M is basically peanuts in offshore research. Maybe 2 projects each funded for 2 years.
Feds holding it up, and Riley and Jindal are too since the vast majority of scientists at LSU have opposed his berm idea.
Although 5M is basically peanuts in offshore research. Maybe 2 projects each funded for 2 years.
Posted on 6/28/10 at 10:41 am to Mudminnow
I didn't know scientist at LSU oppossed the berms. That's pretty interesting. I would love to read the specifics of their case against it if anyone has a link.
Posted on 6/28/10 at 10:52 am to Mudminnow
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Feds holding it up, and Riley and Jindal are too since the vast majority of scientists at LSU have opposed his berm idea.
I'd like to know more about this.
Posted on 6/28/10 at 10:56 am to Decatur
I hate to promote this site because the site is as liberal as they come. But you can read all you want about the negative feelings about the berms at lacoastpost.com!
Posted on 6/28/10 at 11:06 am to omegaman66
I know that several scientists are skeptical about the berm idea. I was interested in learning more about what, if anything, Jindal has been holding up just because those scientists disagree with him.
Posted on 6/28/10 at 11:31 am to omegaman66
Thanks. No worries. I'm a Republican.
Posted on 6/28/10 at 12:30 pm to CougarBait
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No worries. I'm a Republican.
This made me chuckle.
Posted on 6/28/10 at 12:41 pm to CougarBait
Actually there arent many scientists from around the country who support the berm idea.
Rob Young is a professor of coastal ecology at Western Carolina University and director of the Program for the Study of Developed Shorelines
Rob Young
Rob Young: Scientifc American
Greg Stone: LSU - sand transport expert; direct of coastal studies
Legnthy but several professors and their view points
Scientists Skeptic about Sand Berms
Scientists question if sand berms are a good idea
Sand berms to be built to hold off oil from Louisiana coast
Booms, Berms Offer Imperfect Solutions to Oil Spill's Advance in Gulf
Rob Young is a professor of coastal ecology at Western Carolina University and director of the Program for the Study of Developed Shorelines
Rob Young
Rob Young: Scientifc American
Greg Stone: LSU - sand transport expert; direct of coastal studies
Legnthy but several professors and their view points
Scientists Skeptic about Sand Berms
Scientists question if sand berms are a good idea
Sand berms to be built to hold off oil from Louisiana coast
Booms, Berms Offer Imperfect Solutions to Oil Spill's Advance in Gulf
Posted on 6/28/10 at 12:42 pm to Mudminnow
LINK
More long-term harm than good?
State leaders are not consulting independent scientists about the plan or considering questions about its long-term effects on the coastal environment, says Gregory Stone, a professor of oceanography in the School of Coastal and Environmental Studies at Louisiana State University.
“The governor has not been open about sharing details,” said Professor Stone. “This is a mammoth engineering project, and it can be done, but it’s being done willy-nilly. It’s foolish to embark on a project of this scale without establishing potential negative impacts on currents, on coastal erosion, on wildlife habitat, on a whole range of environmental issues.”
The governor’s plan could be improved before implementation, says George Paul Kemp, vice president of the Audubon Society’s Louisiana Coastal Initiative and a former professor of coastal geology at LSU.
“A lot of it seems wishful, but that’s not to say that elements of the plan should not be moved on,” says Mr. Kemp, who met Monday in Venice, La., with EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson and a White House representative to discuss the federal response to the disaster.
Kemp says he and other ocean scientists are encouraging state and federal officials to focus efforts on the many tidal inlets and passes in the oil-affected areas. Kemp and Stone both said that boom can be effectively used to redirect oil toward existing barrier island beaches, preventing it from reaching inland wetlands.
Stone worries that if the state defies federal authorities on emergency dredging, federal funding for long-term rebuilding projects might not be available. Since hurricane Katrina, which nearly erased many barrier islands off the Louisiana coast, the state has tried to get funding to rebuild its eroded coastline. Sand that is available to permanently rebuild the beaches is limited, and emergency dredging could use those resources.
More long-term harm than good?
State leaders are not consulting independent scientists about the plan or considering questions about its long-term effects on the coastal environment, says Gregory Stone, a professor of oceanography in the School of Coastal and Environmental Studies at Louisiana State University.
“The governor has not been open about sharing details,” said Professor Stone. “This is a mammoth engineering project, and it can be done, but it’s being done willy-nilly. It’s foolish to embark on a project of this scale without establishing potential negative impacts on currents, on coastal erosion, on wildlife habitat, on a whole range of environmental issues.”
The governor’s plan could be improved before implementation, says George Paul Kemp, vice president of the Audubon Society’s Louisiana Coastal Initiative and a former professor of coastal geology at LSU.
“A lot of it seems wishful, but that’s not to say that elements of the plan should not be moved on,” says Mr. Kemp, who met Monday in Venice, La., with EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson and a White House representative to discuss the federal response to the disaster.
Kemp says he and other ocean scientists are encouraging state and federal officials to focus efforts on the many tidal inlets and passes in the oil-affected areas. Kemp and Stone both said that boom can be effectively used to redirect oil toward existing barrier island beaches, preventing it from reaching inland wetlands.
Stone worries that if the state defies federal authorities on emergency dredging, federal funding for long-term rebuilding projects might not be available. Since hurricane Katrina, which nearly erased many barrier islands off the Louisiana coast, the state has tried to get funding to rebuild its eroded coastline. Sand that is available to permanently rebuild the beaches is limited, and emergency dredging could use those resources.
Posted on 6/28/10 at 12:43 pm to Mudminnow
What's all this about Jindal holding up research grants?
Posted on 6/28/10 at 12:51 pm to Decatur
Its a combination of Feds and Jindal. This was said at a meeting last week.
Its very political, and as you know, LSU is a very political school just look at the vanheerdon case for more info.
Its very political, and as you know, LSU is a very political school just look at the vanheerdon case for more info.
Posted on 6/28/10 at 12:53 pm to wilceaux
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This made me chuckle
Well, you only have two to pick from right now in this country. Fiscal conservative, social libertarian, and devil's advocate to extremist in my own party. How's that.
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