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Shocking:10 miles long, 3 miles wide and 300 feet thick in spots.
Posted on 5/16/10 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 5/16/10 at 12:18 pm
Everyday, we learn just a little more. Do we really know the truth?
10 miles long, 3 miles wide - where is it headed link?
10 miles long, 3 miles wide - where is it headed link?
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Posted on 5/16/10 at 12:28 pm to davidsheroes
Ouch!
Posted on 5/16/10 at 12:36 pm to davidsheroes
The midlevel water currents in the area are indicating East. Once its starts washing onshore on the white sands of FL beaches, BP's image will be tarnished.
Posted on 5/16/10 at 1:52 pm to Mudminnow
Already is
Posted on 5/16/10 at 2:01 pm to Mudminnow
Not good
Posted on 5/16/10 at 2:48 pm to TheDoc
What is shocking about it? That the oil went somewhere?
Posted on 5/16/10 at 3:21 pm to jeffsdad
Its shocking to BP....the live press conference was 
To BP they have no confirmation of the underwater plumes, but they find it hard to believe since oil is lighter than water and will come to the surface.
To BP they have no confirmation of the underwater plumes, but they find it hard to believe since oil is lighter than water and will come to the surface.
Posted on 5/16/10 at 4:03 pm to Mudminnow
quote:
To BP they have no confirmation of the underwater plumes, but they find it hard to believe since oil is lighter than water and will come to the surface.
Apparently BP thinks the dispersants just make the oil disappear.
Posted on 5/16/10 at 6:02 pm to Mudminnow
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The midlevel water currents in the area are indicating East. Once its starts washing onshore on the white sands of FL beaches, BP's image will be tarnished.
Well actually.. the midlevel currents at ground zero are more towards the WSW: Station 42364, Ram-Powell Rig
Ocean current plot, last day.
Posted on 5/16/10 at 6:24 pm to davidsheroes
quote:
“The answer is no to that,” a BP spokesman, Tom Mueller, said on Saturday. “We’re not going to take any extra efforts now to calculate flow there at this point. It’s not relevant to the response effort, and it might even detract from the response effort.”
I am not following how knowing the flow will not help the relief efforts? It seems like it will not help at the site of the leak but it will be very useful to know every other place in the gulf. Being prepared for the cleanup is part of the relief and not knowing exactly what we are dealing with is not helping.
Posted on 5/16/10 at 6:40 pm to baytiger
I looked at one of the WAVCIS installations and it was heading east as of yesterday.
Here's all I can find at the moment
Millions of gallons of crude are already in the water, however, and researchers said the black ooze may have entered a major current that could carry it through the Florida Keys and around to the East Coast.
A researcher told The Associated Press on Sunday that computer models show the oil may have already seeped into a powerful water stream known as the loop current, which could propel it into the Atlantic Ocean. A boat is being sent next week to collect samples and learn more.
William Hogarth, dean of the University of South Florida's College of Marine Science, said one model shows oil has already entered the current, while a second shows the oil is 3 miles from it — still dangerously close. The models are based on weather, ocean current and spill data from the U.S. Navy and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, among other sources.
Hogarth said it's still too early to know what specific amounts of oil will make it to Florida, or what damage it might do to the sensitive Keys or beaches on Florida's Atlantic coast. He said claims by BP that the oil would be less damaging to the Keys after traveling over hundreds of miles from the spill site were not mollifying.
Here's all I can find at the moment
Millions of gallons of crude are already in the water, however, and researchers said the black ooze may have entered a major current that could carry it through the Florida Keys and around to the East Coast.
A researcher told The Associated Press on Sunday that computer models show the oil may have already seeped into a powerful water stream known as the loop current, which could propel it into the Atlantic Ocean. A boat is being sent next week to collect samples and learn more.
William Hogarth, dean of the University of South Florida's College of Marine Science, said one model shows oil has already entered the current, while a second shows the oil is 3 miles from it — still dangerously close. The models are based on weather, ocean current and spill data from the U.S. Navy and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, among other sources.
Hogarth said it's still too early to know what specific amounts of oil will make it to Florida, or what damage it might do to the sensitive Keys or beaches on Florida's Atlantic coast. He said claims by BP that the oil would be less damaging to the Keys after traveling over hundreds of miles from the spill site were not mollifying.
Posted on 5/16/10 at 6:42 pm to davidsheroes
I feared this could be an issue.
Posted on 5/16/10 at 6:49 pm to Mudminnow
quote:
I looked at one of the WAVCIS installations and it was heading east as of yesterday.
That station has been showing WSW for most of the past week. I'd imagine the current is easterly further south.. let me see
eta: 42881 has ESE currents at the upper depths but is basically stagnant at lower depths. That's our southmost ADCP
This post was edited on 5/16/10 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 5/16/10 at 6:52 pm to baytiger
This is all I could find in the paper about the currents.
Gregory Stone, the director of Coastal Studies Institute at LSU’s School of the Coast and Environment, said the oil slick has grown from about 85 miles in length to 115 miles during the past two weeks.
And Stone said the currents have a major influence on where the oil is moving.
Stone studies satellite images of the oil slick and he also monitors currents among other data he collects on the daily conditions in the Gulf.
Because the winds have died down in the Gulf over the last two weeks, Stone said the currents are going to be the primary influence on the slick.
Stone checked the currents Friday and depending on what level of water he was checking, the currents appeared to be going in different directions.
He said the currents on the floor of the Gulf were moving toward the south and out into more open water when they were read at noon
The currents in the water column, where some of the droplets are located, were moving more toward the east, he said.
On the surface, where the slick is located, the currents were moving toward the north northwest, he said.
Gregory Stone, the director of Coastal Studies Institute at LSU’s School of the Coast and Environment, said the oil slick has grown from about 85 miles in length to 115 miles during the past two weeks.
And Stone said the currents have a major influence on where the oil is moving.
Stone studies satellite images of the oil slick and he also monitors currents among other data he collects on the daily conditions in the Gulf.
Because the winds have died down in the Gulf over the last two weeks, Stone said the currents are going to be the primary influence on the slick.
Stone checked the currents Friday and depending on what level of water he was checking, the currents appeared to be going in different directions.
He said the currents on the floor of the Gulf were moving toward the south and out into more open water when they were read at noon
The currents in the water column, where some of the droplets are located, were moving more toward the east, he said.
On the surface, where the slick is located, the currents were moving toward the north northwest, he said.
Posted on 5/16/10 at 9:26 pm to Mudminnow
I took two classes under Dr. Stone when I was at LSU.. I would love to have a candid conversation w/ him now about his short term and long term outlook about the magnitude of this
Posted on 5/17/10 at 4:56 pm to mmill32
email me minnow_mud@yahoo.com 
This post was edited on 5/17/10 at 8:06 pm
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