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re: Install cabinets before or after laying hardwood?
Posted on 5/11/18 at 9:36 am to Neauxla
Posted on 5/11/18 at 9:36 am to Neauxla
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For those saying put cabinets down before hardwood floors, how do you site finish the hardwoods w/o messing up the brand new cabinets?
Edge sander and this stuff called masking tape.
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Posted on 5/11/18 at 10:16 am to Golfer
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I am the floor guy...
Well then I'd lay them first. Figure out where your cabinets go and lay the floor a few inches past that. For the dishwasher area you will want to lay it completely under there or use something that is equal height to hardwood so the dishwasher can be slid in and out in one smooth plane. If the cab guy wants to he can cut flooring back with a skilsaw right to where he wants it.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 6:54 pm to Hank R Hill
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You cant sand it well under the cabinet toe kicks otherwise, without alot of trouble
yes you can they call it a toe kick sander
Posted on 5/12/18 at 10:56 pm to Neauxla
They're clueless and have never built a home
Posted on 5/12/18 at 11:15 pm to Jack Daniel
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If you will have shoe molding, then you install baseboards before flooring and put shoe molding down after floors.
This. I have never in my life seen a finished floor installed after cabinetry. It potentially presents a myriad of problems later on down the road. Run it under the refer, but not under the dishwasher.
Posted on 5/12/18 at 11:17 pm to Clames
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For those saying put cabinets down before hardwood floors, how do you site finish the hardwoods w/o messing up the brand new cabinets?
The same way you re-finish them 10 years later...
It takes care, practice and know-how.
Posted on 5/13/18 at 9:26 pm to Golfer
Always before, especially because if you ever have to replace the flooring you won’t have to rip up the cabinets.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:12 am to Tiger Prawn
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After. If you ever have to pull up those hardwood floors for any reason, it’ll be a lot easier if the flooring wasn’t run under the cabinets too.
I can attest to this. had my floors replaced and they had to cut up to the cabinets. The trimed out finish just cannot look the same.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 9:38 pm to Motorboat
I am a GC and do this for a living. I use professional subcontractors on my jobs and there is a sequence and reasoninng to install your cabinets first that being the case. If you are a do it yourselfer, then you might do things differently. As a professional who works with other professionals, i would install your cabinets first for the following reasons:
1. You will pay more money for materials and labor price per square foot to install the wood under area that you don't need the flooring.
2. Professional floor installers have the right tools and know how to efficiently cut and finish wood around cabinets and still charge by the square footage of wood they actually install.
3. If/when you have a leak under a sink through and under the cabinet, the damage does not extend to the flooring outside of the cabinet footprint. The work involved with cutting out this flooring and replacing pales in comparison to the little bit of extra work/ hand sanding you thought was a pain in the butt under the toe kicks.
4. Unless you are bringing in pre-finished cabinets, custom cabinets are prepped, sanded, and sprayed after they are installed. You've just added at least a day's worth of work to the painter to cover up all of the flooring so that he does't get primer, paint, stain, or sealer on your new flooring. And even still, the paint still finds a way to get on the floor in spots.
5. You are dragging, moving "furniture"/cabinets over a finished product. They will get gouged, scratched, and have to be touched up in spots especially if they are pine which is a soft wood.
1. You will pay more money for materials and labor price per square foot to install the wood under area that you don't need the flooring.
2. Professional floor installers have the right tools and know how to efficiently cut and finish wood around cabinets and still charge by the square footage of wood they actually install.
3. If/when you have a leak under a sink through and under the cabinet, the damage does not extend to the flooring outside of the cabinet footprint. The work involved with cutting out this flooring and replacing pales in comparison to the little bit of extra work/ hand sanding you thought was a pain in the butt under the toe kicks.
4. Unless you are bringing in pre-finished cabinets, custom cabinets are prepped, sanded, and sprayed after they are installed. You've just added at least a day's worth of work to the painter to cover up all of the flooring so that he does't get primer, paint, stain, or sealer on your new flooring. And even still, the paint still finds a way to get on the floor in spots.
5. You are dragging, moving "furniture"/cabinets over a finished product. They will get gouged, scratched, and have to be touched up in spots especially if they are pine which is a soft wood.
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