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re: Rain Gear options
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:21 am to Flats
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:21 am to Flats
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I've never seen a decent Gore-tex product leak through the fabric
Owned a bunch and only if it's three layer (Pro Gore-Tex) which will stand up to being a totally dry fabric. It's the DWR coating which is making it appear that way on all the rest. I'm not talking about and hour in the rain but and all day soaking 4-5 years down the road. That's the rub about light weight gore-tex in hiking once you appreciably wear the water repellant coating you'll get wet in all day conditions. And of course you can reapply the DWR coating (like revivex) but you'll never get the 3-layer PRO results even when brand new.
Tip - open your jacket up around the hood (not use) to increase breath ability and couple with a tiny-cheap-umbrella you'll be even more dry inside. I tuck mine in between your pack -n- back and keep much drier this way. The cheapest and smallest you can find.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:39 am to awestruck
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That's the rub about light weight gore-tex in hiking once you appreciably wear the water repellant coating you'll get wet in all day conditions.
Sure, but you're typically getting wet from your own sweat and the fact that the fabric doesn't breathe when it wets out, not from rainwater going through the membrane.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:56 am to Flats
You can still stay dry if ventilated. I have had two drysuits of gore-tex had they were breathable and totally dry when saturated. As in take it off and drive home in the same clothes dry. I'd have another but they re no longer made.
You are correct in that you either have to ventilate or have enough internal pressure to force moisture through the micro-pores. It's why Gore no longer allows gore-tex in sleeping bags. You can't get the external pressure up enough on the back side of insulation ... so as to force moisture though the membrane, so it's coats the inside of the fabric instead.
Not arguing about getting wet inside...
You are correct in that you either have to ventilate or have enough internal pressure to force moisture through the micro-pores. It's why Gore no longer allows gore-tex in sleeping bags. You can't get the external pressure up enough on the back side of insulation ... so as to force moisture though the membrane, so it's coats the inside of the fabric instead.
Not arguing about getting wet inside...
Posted on 1/23/26 at 5:49 pm to TigerBait0129
I have the Frogg Toggs guide series Jacket and bibs and they are the bomb. Been in some really nasty weather for extended periods of time and they've never failed me. Worth every penny in my book. 
Posted on 1/23/26 at 6:00 pm to awestruck
None of it is all that ideal regardless of price. Especially if you are engaged in any kind of activity. My vote is for a Marmot Precip jacket and pants.
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