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Posted on 5/20/17 at 8:43 pm to
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 5/20/17 at 8:43 pm to
Pay the extra money and get the M & P if you desire a S & W.
Posted by GenghisKhan
Gulf Coast
Member since Aug 2016
960 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 10:07 pm to
Noooooooo
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 5/20/17 at 11:27 pm to
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shots per second


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Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5066 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 7:59 pm to
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I guess that's the fancy math for one shot every 5 seconds.

I learned my ciphering in the Mississippi public school system, but graduated before we got to decimals & fractions.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/21/17 at 8:36 pm to
I was just goofing off, the range I go to won't allow < 1 second follow ups.

I surprise myself with how poor my follow up accuracy is. I wish I could afford to practice more, but my 357sig is pricey to shoot. Shooting Ventura reloads at ~$95/250 rounds adds up quickly. I think if I were outdoors the flash-bang wouldn't be so jarring...but I probably just need lessons and a helluva lot more practice.
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5066 posts
Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:31 am to
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I was just goofing off, the range I go to won't allow < 1 second follow ups.

I surprise myself with how poor my follow up accuracy is. I wish I could afford to practice more, but my 357sig is pricey to shoot. Shooting Ventura reloads at ~$95/250 rounds adds up quickly. I think if I were outdoors the flash-bang wouldn't be so jarring...but I probably just need lessons and a helluva lot more practice.
Lots of ranges have "no rapid fire" policy. At some point it makes the practice sessions less valuable because being able to make rapid, accurate follow up shots is a very important skill (IMO).

If you're getting accurate hits ("self defense accuracy," loosely defined as 8" circle at 21 feet) at a rate of one shot per second with the .357 SIG, you're doing a lot better than most.

If you're at that "plateau" and are not allowed to shoot faster (which would ordinarily be the goal), strong-hand-only and weak-hand-only drills are good uses of ammo.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
12209 posts
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:31 pm to
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(a) My shooting has not suffered at ANY distance.
(b) Obviously the more rounds per second the less accurate, but again, have not noticed any difference in my shooting between the SD9 and the Glock 17.

Not to brag at all but maybe im just a consistent shooter? But then again my wife drilled a nutria with mine at about 15 yards last weekend with cheap hollow points so maybe its a you issue since she seems to not have trouble with the "heavy" trigger either.


He's not arguing that you are a worse or better shooter than him so I don't know why you're making it personal.

What he's saying is that a handgun with a heavier trigger pull is harder to be accurate with compared to a gun with a medium to light trigger pull. Compare shooting the SD9 with an M&P9 and you will see this is true.

Can you shoot your personal SD9 accurately? I'm sure you can. But the argument is that the average person will shoot a gun with a better trigger more accurately.

I could practice and get proficient with an SD9 but why not invest that time in something with a better trigger from the start?

I also agree with him that it's more important to have accurate follow-up shots (called "splits" in competition) than it is to have accurate bullseye shots with no regard to time. You aren't trying to hit the left ventricle of a threat's heart - you are simply trying to maximize the amount of force needed to STOP the threat. 2-4 quick shots in the torso will be more effective than one slow, aimed shot in the heart.
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