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Posted on 2/11/22 at 10:26 pm to
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 2/11/22 at 10:26 pm to
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post that I have quoted made me wonder if God was hearing my prayers back then in my life


every gesture you make registers.

Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 2/11/22 at 10:38 pm to
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post that I have quoted made me wonder if God was hearing my prayers back then in my life


every gesture you make registers.


And every sin I have committed or will commit has been covered by the blood of my Lord and Savior’s substitutionary death….praise Jesus!
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:28 am to
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Bass Tiger
Thank you for the kind words and for sharing your background. I feel blessed and encouraged by reading about what the Lord has done in your life.

I do believe that God was preparing you in your formative years for what He has called you to in your later ones because you belong to Him in a special way.

The Bible is full of preparation. We are told that we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ for good works that God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them (Eph. 2:10).

Starting in the beginning of creation, God began by creating or forming in order to prepare to fill. The space of universe was prepared for the sun, moon, and stars. The earth was created in preparation for the plants and animals. Even the garden of Eden was created in preparation for Man and his tending to it.

God prepared Joseph to be a savior of His people through the dreams He gave Joseph and the many years of trials and struggles—being sold into slavery by his brothers and being wrongfully accused of sexual assault and being sent to prison—so that he would be ready to deliver his family from a famine that wound have killed them when the time came by making him an authority over Egypt.

The Lord prepared Moses for his work as a leader and judge over Israel by sending him as a child to be raised in the house of Pharaoh.

God prepared David for his encounter with Goliath and the Philistine enemies of Israel by delivering him from the lion and the bear when David encountered them while tending his sheep when he was younger.

God prepared the people for Christ’s ministry and work on the cross through the Old Testament sacrifices and the prophets, including John the Baptist, whose job was specifically to prepare the way for the Lord through his calls to repentance.

God prepared the Apostles for their work through the discipleship of Jesus, and the trials they encountered. God used Peter’s 3-fold denial of Jesus to make him bold in the Spirit after Christ’s resurrection.

God uses the events of our lives to prepare us for many things, including and especially the salvation that He blessed us with through Jesus. He often prepares our hearts by giving us the gospel much earlier than when we believe it. He puts people in our lives to build relationships and to teach us. He sends us hardship and trials to prepare us for patience and trust in Him.

Even now, Christ is preparing a home for us in Heaven while He prepares us for glory through the work of the Spirit in us to make us more and more like Christ until that day we will be perfect like He is.

I praise the Lord for His work in your life.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62052 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 10:49 am to
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I don’t know your background Foo but it seems you have been through seminary and likely additional religious and philosophy studies, you are much more learned than most on this forum when it comes to Holy Scripture.



No doubt one can tell Foo has a grasp of the scriptures that is far beyond most laymen.
I have two friends who are both pastors in Reformed churches, and they are both like him.
Actually, I find Christians from Reformed churches generally all have a better grasp of scripture than others.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62052 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 10:53 am to
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Revelator seems to be the only real fanatic in this thread.


The things I believe used to be mainline Christian theology preached in Baptist churches 30-40 years ago.
Now, not so much. It’s mostly life themed sermons and fluff.
Luckily, I’ve found a church recently that’s pretty old school and fundamental in its beliefs.
This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 11:01 am
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 2/12/22 at 10:54 am to
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Ok so you think man is not good in himself?


He isn’t, and this is plain from the scriptures
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 2/12/22 at 10:59 am to
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He isn’t, and this is plain from the scriptures


So then god is not good, in himself?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62052 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 11:00 am to
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And every sin I have committed or will commit has been covered by the blood of my Lord and Savior’s substitutionary death….praise Jesus!


While I believe this to be true, I cringe when someone says it.
It gives off a vibe that it doesn’t matter how we live, or that we can take sin casually. I don’t think that’s what you meant, but it can be taken that way.
I’m convinced that no truly saved person who has become a new creature should ever treat sin casually.
Another thing that Christian’s say that is cringeworthy is,” everyone sins ever day.”
We should never approach life with this attitude.
This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 11:04 am
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62052 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 11:02 am to
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So then god is not good, in himself?


I didn’t say that. God created Lucifer, yet evil was found in him was it not?
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 11:03 am to
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I didn’t say that.


Is man made in his image or not? The logical conclusion seems pretty clear.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62052 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 11:06 am to
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Is man made in his image or not? The logical conclusion seems pretty clear.



Because it says we were made in his image, doesn’t mean we have all the attributes of God. Plus, one would have to do deep study into what the verses,” in his image” actually mean.
For one, God never had the ability to lie or fall.
This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 11:07 am
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 11:09 am to
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For one, God never had the ability to lie or fall.


you have no way of knowing this.


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Because it says we were made in his image, doesn’t mean we have all the attributes of God.


But what it does mean is that all the attributes that are inherent to us, must also be inherent to him. Otherwise we wouldn't be in his image. Are you following?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62052 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 11:12 am to
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you have no way of knowing this.



I believe what God reveals about himself in his word.

A few things is,” in him is no shadow of turning” and “ he’s the same today, yesterday and forever.”
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 11:16 am to
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A few things is,” in him is no shadow of turning” and “ he’s the same today, yesterday and forever.”


Why are you taking things so far out of context to try and prove your point?


You've completely avoided the entire point of this whole conversation. It's clear you've encountered a contradiction. Which truth will you believe? That we were created in his image? or that he is perfection?

Both cannot be true and yet the scripture states both at different points. You must decide this for yourself. Which one have you chosen?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62052 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 11:26 am to
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Why are you taking things so far out of context to try and prove your point?


It’s not out of context, it’s describing the nature or God.
Let me ask you this, if we are inherently good, why did Jesus admonish the man who called him good master?
He told the man, no one is good but my Father in heaven.


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That we were created in his image? or that he is perfection?


We were created a beings that were sinless and innocent, but yet, the capacity to sin and fall was in us.
God doesn’t have that ability to fall, lie or change.
All one had to do to know that man isn’t inherently good is to study history and see what mankind did to mankind.
This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 11:37 am
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 11:41 am to
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We were created a beings that were sinless and innocent, but yet, the capacity to sin and fall was in us.
God doesn’t have that ability to fall, lie or change.


We cannot be created in his image and have things inherent to us that are not inherent to him. That is simply impossible. I'm sure you can see why. Would you like further explanation as to why?

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Let me ask you this, if we are inherently good, why did Jesus admonish the man who called him good master?
He told the man, no one is good but my Father in heaven.


Have you considered the possibility that Jesus was wrong? He has been documented to have spoken falsely before, you have no way of knowing if this is one of those times or not.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62052 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 11:51 am to
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We cannot be created in his image and have things inherent to us that are not inherent to him.


Sometimes we say a child is a spitting image is his Father, but that doesn’t mean the child is exactly like the Father in every facet
This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 11:54 am
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 12:08 pm to
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but that doesn’t mean the child is exactly like the Father in every facet


I am not claiming we are like him in every facet. Stop moving the goal posts.

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Sometimes we say a child is a spitting image is his Father


Yes, we do. It's a literary device known as hyperbole. Do you believe the scripture to be hyperbolizing?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62052 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 12:22 pm to
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Do you believe the scripture to be hyperbolizing?


I’m saying you are reading more into the phrase,” in his image” than is meant.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 12:59 pm to
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I’m saying you are reading more into the phrase,” in his image” than is meant.


You are pretty clearly not putting enough weight in the words of the scripture here.
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