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re: Any Freemasons on this board?
Posted on 1/20/22 at 9:58 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
Posted on 1/20/22 at 9:58 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
quote:Gold in any form is gold. Starving homeless people don't care much about treasures.
in the form of priceless historical artifacts
The bible says "Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:" Matthew 6:19.
quote:No, crap is probably more correct. It's just stuff mostly kept out of sight. And so it all just sits there while the people of Samoa suffer. While tornado ravaged parts saw not a cent of help from Rome. Just an old man telling us how to become a commie country.
Also keep in mind this is the result of 2,000 years of accumulating crap (crap isn’t the correct word).
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Posted on 1/20/22 at 10:00 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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average age of membership is 41
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tactic to encourage younger men
What's this now?
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 1/20/22 at 10:02 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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becoming a Freemason
I'm blacklisted
Posted on 1/20/22 at 10:07 pm to LookSquirrel
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support the Government
You lost me here. I'm out.
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 1/20/22 at 10:11 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
Congrats on the butt sex.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 10:18 pm to IceTiger
quote:Do you mean black balled? Why?
I'm blacklisted
Posted on 1/21/22 at 12:20 am to Redbone
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Do you mean black balled? Why?
Sure, that too...
Srsly, when I was a young guy in college I helped unload trucks of artifacts from some old lodge in NO. I told some dudes about a kid that I went to school with that got molested in the old orphanage and the guy in charge caught wind of it, kicked me off the job and said I was never welcome again.
The Paul Harvey of it was that it wasn't a staff member or anything, it was the kid's relative that visited. I never said the staff did anything, but they had a habit of keeping their reputation clean.
I grew up less than a mile from the orphanage, went to school and played little league with all the kids that were my age and lived there.
Posted on 1/21/22 at 6:35 am to Tesla
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The real PITA is having to listen to modern day Pharisees pontificate about Freemasonry of which they know very little in an attempt to make themselves literally holier than thou. Other than that, you get out what you put in. If they sacrifice children to Ba’al in the Scottish Rite, my home lodge is waaay off! I mean, we pray together, read the Bible in open lodge, support our charity, the widows and orphans and can depend on each other for anything and everything. Worst….evildoers….ever.
This thread has been an interesting read. It’s not too surprising the amount of misunderstanding about the Masons and the Mysteries, in general. Good to see a fellow Traveler again.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:38 am to Redbone
Riddle me this - why is mention of the name of Jesus absolutely forbidden within the lodges?
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:56 am to the_truman_shitshow
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Riddle me this - why is mention of the name of Jesus absolutely forbidden within the lodges?
Because they're gnostics and deny the deity of Christ, which makes them heretics.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:04 am to the_truman_shitshow
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Riddle me this - why is mention of the name of Jesus absolutely forbidden within the lodges?
If that were true, the Mason I know would have never been a member.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:09 am to troyt37
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If that were true, the Mason I know would have never been a member.
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When a Christian takes the oath of Freemasonry, he is swearing to the following doctrines that God has pronounced false and sinful:
1. That salvation can be gained by man’s good works.
2. That Jesus is just one of many equally revered prophets.
3. That they will remain silent in the Lodge and not talk of Christ.
4. That they are approaching the Lodge in spiritual darkness and ignorance, when the Bible says Christians are already in the light, children of the light, and are indwelt by the Light of the World—Jesus Christ.
5. By demanding that Christians take the Masonic oath, Masonry leads Christians into blasphemy and taking the name of the Lord in vain.
6. Masonry teaches that its G.A.O.T.U. [Great Architect of the Universe], whom Masonry believes is the true God of the universe, is representative of all gods in all religions.
7. Masonry makes Christians take a universalist approach in their prayers, demanding a “generic” name be used so as not to offend non-believers who are Masonic “brothers”.
8. By swearing the Masonic oath and participating in the doctrines of the Lodge, Christians are perpetuating a false gospel to other Lodge members, who look only to Masonry’s plan of salvation to get to heaven. By their very membership in such a syncretistic type organization, they have severely compromised their witnessing as Christians.
9. By taking the Masonic obligation, the Christian is agreeing to allow the pollution of his mind, spirit, and body by those who serve false gods and believe false doctrines.
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:00 pm to squid_hunt
I just had my first meeting last night to discuss membership and both god and Jesus were discussed.
This all happened at the lodge.
So I can tell you that several of what’s listed as examples of anti Christian teachings in Freemasonry are not accurate. It only took one meeting to find this out.
This all happened at the lodge.
So I can tell you that several of what’s listed as examples of anti Christian teachings in Freemasonry are not accurate. It only took one meeting to find this out.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:48 pm to squid_hunt
Mission Statement of Got Questions Ministries:
"Got Questions Ministries seeks to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by providing biblical, applicable, and timely answers to spiritually related questions through an internet presence."
GotQuestions.org is a ministry of dedicated and trained servants who have a desire to assist others in their understanding of God, Scripture, salvation, and other spiritual topics. We are Christian, Protestant, evangelical, theologically conservative, and non-denominational. We view ourselves as a para-church ministry, coming alongside the church to help people find answers to their spiritually related questions.
We will do our best to prayerfully and thoroughly research your question and answer it in a biblically based manner. It is not our purpose to make you agree with us, but rather to point you to what the Bible says concerning your question. You can be assured that your question will be answered by a trained and dedicated Christian who loves the Lord and desires to assist you in your walk with Him. Our writing staff includes pastors, youth pastors, missionaries, biblical counselors, Bible/Christian college students, seminary students, and lay students of God’s Word.
All of our answers are reviewed for biblical and theological accuracy by our staff. Our CEO, S. Michael Houdmann, is ultimately accountable for our content, and therefore maintains an active role in the review process. He possesses a Bachelor’s degree in Biblical Studies from Calvary University, a Master’s degree in Christian Theology from Calvary Theological Seminary, and is currently pursuing a Master of Theology degree from Dallas Theological Seminary. Please go here for more information on our expertise.
I'm going to guess they don't have any Masons in their think tank, since they are declaring it eeeevil. I'll say it again for you, since I may not have been talking to you before. The one Mason that I know was an unequivocally brilliant man, and an unequivocally devout, Godly Christian, who loved Jesus. Nobody hoodwinked him into some anti-Christian cult, and if any one of your points were true, he not only would not have been one, he would have had the lodge and its members ran out of our little town on a rail.
"Got Questions Ministries seeks to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by providing biblical, applicable, and timely answers to spiritually related questions through an internet presence."
GotQuestions.org is a ministry of dedicated and trained servants who have a desire to assist others in their understanding of God, Scripture, salvation, and other spiritual topics. We are Christian, Protestant, evangelical, theologically conservative, and non-denominational. We view ourselves as a para-church ministry, coming alongside the church to help people find answers to their spiritually related questions.
We will do our best to prayerfully and thoroughly research your question and answer it in a biblically based manner. It is not our purpose to make you agree with us, but rather to point you to what the Bible says concerning your question. You can be assured that your question will be answered by a trained and dedicated Christian who loves the Lord and desires to assist you in your walk with Him. Our writing staff includes pastors, youth pastors, missionaries, biblical counselors, Bible/Christian college students, seminary students, and lay students of God’s Word.
All of our answers are reviewed for biblical and theological accuracy by our staff. Our CEO, S. Michael Houdmann, is ultimately accountable for our content, and therefore maintains an active role in the review process. He possesses a Bachelor’s degree in Biblical Studies from Calvary University, a Master’s degree in Christian Theology from Calvary Theological Seminary, and is currently pursuing a Master of Theology degree from Dallas Theological Seminary. Please go here for more information on our expertise.
I'm going to guess they don't have any Masons in their think tank, since they are declaring it eeeevil. I'll say it again for you, since I may not have been talking to you before. The one Mason that I know was an unequivocally brilliant man, and an unequivocally devout, Godly Christian, who loved Jesus. Nobody hoodwinked him into some anti-Christian cult, and if any one of your points were true, he not only would not have been one, he would have had the lodge and its members ran out of our little town on a rail.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 9:28 am to TigerOnTheMountain
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I just had my first meeting last night to discuss membership and both god and Jesus were discussed.
Thanks for the update.
Did you take an Oath?
Posted on 1/27/22 at 9:30 am to TheFranchise
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Good to see a fellow Traveler again.
Traveler? Where are you supposed to be going?
Posted on 1/27/22 at 9:53 am to Liberator
Are you implying all oaths are equivocal to sin? Are you calling military, police, firemen, and married people sinners because they took an oath to uphold their training? Freemasonry is about fellowship and growth... Much like a bible study group. However the 2 can coexist. You can do both. They have different missions. Your local church may send mission trips to Uganda. While you may support that but you also want to support a local orphanage here in America and Masonry provides an avenue for fellowship amongst God fearing men to support such good works without all the BS that comes with theological disagreements like catholicism vs protestantism.
That's all I got from outside observation and through a friend.
That's all I got from outside observation and through a friend.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 9:54 am to LookSquirrel
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I offer this [Masonic Belief and Teaching] from his Masonic Bible. It might help some who confuse the good with the bad in the ordinary lodge member.
Interesting, thanks.
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"The Holy Bible is the Great Light in Masonry and the Rule and Guide for faith and practice."
"Man is immortal."
"Character determines destiny."
A few observations:
What is the Bible and Word of God without the Gospel? (no mention)
"Great Light" = "Illuminated" in Knowledge
On that topic:
Genesis 2:17:
"But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”
DOES "Character" really determine "destiny"? If one truly believes in the Gospel, this (ambiguous) statement is false.
"Man is Immortal" -- True statement, technically; But after this Mortal Coil, then onto 'Judgement'. The God of Abraham ("I AM") will open The Book and decide whether that eternal "Immortality" is spent either WITH God or WITHOUT Him.
So from the above "BELIEFS", it does appear Masonry is its own Religion.
There IS great conflict between claiming to be both a Freemason AND true Christian.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 10:03 am to Abstract Queso Dip
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Are you implying all oaths are equivocal to sin?
As long as they remain subservient to God's Word and laws; Or are you insinuating there's no difference?
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Much like a bible study group. However the 2 can coexist.
Delusion and untrue. Choose one, and choose wisely.
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While you may support that but you also want to support a local orphanage here in America and Masonry provides an avenue for fellowship amongst God fearing men to support such good works without all the BS that comes with theological disagreements like catholicism vs protestantism.
There's only God's Word, and God's Law's, and the Gospel.
Scriptures repeatedly remind believers that "Good Works" are no substitute for adhering to the Gospel, and no expressed requisite for God's Kingdom.
Btw -- I'm not up for debates on "religious" ideology.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 10:08 am to TigerOnTheMountain
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So I can tell you that several of what’s listed as examples of anti Christian teachings in Freemasonry are not accurate. It only took one meeting to find this out.
First meeting, huh?
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