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re: Arkansas' new Ten Commandments monument at Capitol destroyed
Posted on 6/30/17 at 3:24 pm to MastrShake
Posted on 6/30/17 at 3:24 pm to MastrShake
quote:I'm pretty sure this has been covered ad nauseum, but Islam teaches violence whereas Christianity does not. Acts of violence done in the name of Christianity are contradictory to the faith while acts of violence done in the name of Islam are consistent.
you think youre better and more peaceful than islam. youre actually much much worse.
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 3:41 pm to FooManChoo
I think both religions are terrible, but the Bible is absolutely more violent than the Quran.
Obviously it's mostly hysterical nonsense, but if it's to be believed the Bible is the most dangerous book ever written. This is where apologists try to side step with "but that's just the Old Testament."
Wrong.
All great examples of Jesus telling his followers not to ignore anything. There are several other examples of the same.
Let's also not forget about how Christians believe Jesus is literally their god. Yes, the same god from the Old Testament responsible for all the terrorism they want to forget about.
I already know where the argument goes from there, if I have any challengers to anything I said.
Obviously it's mostly hysterical nonsense, but if it's to be believed the Bible is the most dangerous book ever written. This is where apologists try to side step with "but that's just the Old Testament."
Wrong.
quote:
Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
-Jesus
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I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
-Jesus
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But it is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for one dot of the Law to become void.
-Jesus
All great examples of Jesus telling his followers not to ignore anything. There are several other examples of the same.
Let's also not forget about how Christians believe Jesus is literally their god. Yes, the same god from the Old Testament responsible for all the terrorism they want to forget about.
I already know where the argument goes from there, if I have any challengers to anything I said.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 4:59 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
on top of the endless examples for calls to violence from the bible, you have things like popes, who are considered infallible, he has Petrine supremacy, he is the direct word of god, saying things like "rebels" against the church should be put to death.
the church should kill its enemies.
this is from the "Vicar of Christ, pastor of the entire Christian Church, (who) has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church."
so tell me again how these things go against the teaching of Christianity.
the church should kill its enemies.
this is from the "Vicar of Christ, pastor of the entire Christian Church, (who) has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church."
so tell me again how these things go against the teaching of Christianity.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 5:06 pm to MastrShake
quote:Context is very important there. There's a reason why Christians exclude violence done against pagan, child-sacrificing nations and executions based on strict religious laws in a specific nation at a specific time in history.
on top of the endless examples for calls to violence from the bible
quote:The papacy is not in the Bible. The position comes from tradition and such a tradition is rejected by many Christians (Protestants, namely) throughout the world who recognize that the Bible is the only infallible source of Christian truth. We recognize the Biblical teaching of Christ as the head of the Church, not the Pope.
you have things like popes, who are considered infallible, he has Petrine supremacy, he is the direct word of god, saying things like "rebels" against the church should be put to death.
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the church should kill its enemies.
this is from the "Vicar of Christ, pastor of the entire Christian Church, (who) has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church."
so tell me again how these things go against the teaching of Christianity.
I'll reject the Pope and his unbiblical and unChristian commands all day long.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 5:15 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
Let's also not forget about how Christians believe Jesus is literally their god. Yes, the same god from the Old Testament responsible for all the terrorism they want to forget about.
Everything you posted above and this statement here tells me everything I need to know that you know nothing about Christianity. Should have figured from an atheist.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 5:19 pm to Lg
quote:I'm actually wondering if he belongs to the crazy "new atheist" movement that follows Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, and the recently-damned Chris Hitchens.
Should have figured from an atheist.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 5:19 pm to FooManChoo
quote:you can do whatever the frick you want. the fact is Catholics are the largest sect of Christianity by about double. so for you to say these calls for violence go against the teachings of Christianity is simply a lie.
I'll reject the Pope and his unbiblical and unChristian commands all day long.
YET AGAIN we have another example of you wanting something to be true, and so you just go ahead and act as if it really is.
quote:and i assume you give the Quran the same benefit of the doubt?
Context is very important there. There's a reason why Christians exclude violence done against pagan, child-sacrificing nations and executions based on strict religious laws in a specific nation at a specific time in history.
also, what other parts in the bible are up to your personal feelings about what is important and what isn't? and how do you choose?
Posted on 6/30/17 at 5:23 pm to Lg
quote:oh have you not heard the good news of our lord and savior jesus christ?
Everything you posted above and this statement here tells me everything I need to know that you know nothing about Christianity. Should have figured from an atheist.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:01 pm to MastrShake
quote:
the church should kill its enemies.
this is from the "Vicar of Christ, pastor of the entire Christian Church, (who) has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church."
Answer this simple question?
Today, who is more likely to cut off your head if you do not convert to their religion, a Christian or a Muslim?
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:11 pm to rbWarEagle
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Not true at all. We can objectively evaluate moral values and determine whether or not they are beneficial or harmful.
That is exactly what we (society) did when we (society) established laws in the USA based on Judeo/Christian moral beliefs.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:18 pm to FooManChoo
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the recently-damned Chris Hitchens.
Just like a peace-loving Christian, to wish one of your enemies eternity in a magical fairy play land consisting of lava and torture.
Yeah, Religion of Peace right there...
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:22 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
You mean you don't agree with John Lennon?
quote:
I don't take philosophy lessons from music, no.
Do you believe in yourself and what you think are the right things to do?
In other words, do you believe in your own personal moral codes?
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believe
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K
You didn't answer my question, as usual.
Do you believe Christians don't believe that some things are right to do and some things are wrong to do?
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:28 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
the recently-damned Chris Hitchens.
quote:
Just like a peace-loving Christian, to wish one of your enemies eternity in a magical fairy play land consisting of lava and torture.
Yeah, Religion of Peace right there...
To everything (turn, turn, turn)
There is a season (turn, turn, turn)
And a time to every purpose, under heaven
A time to be born, a time to die
A time to plant, a time to reap
A time to kill, a time to heal
A time to laugh, a time to weep
To everything (turn, turn, turn)
There is a season (turn, turn, turn)
And a time to every purpose, under heaven
A time to build up, a time to break down
A time to dance, a time to mourn
A time to cast away stones, a time to gather stones together
To everything (turn, turn, turn)
There is a season (turn, turn, turn)
And a time to every purpose, under heaven
A time of love, a time of hate
A time of war, a time of peace
A time you may embrace, a time to refrain from embracing
To everything (turn, turn, turn)
There is a season (turn, turn, turn)
And a time to every purpose, under heaven
A time to gain, a time to lose
A time to rend, a time to sew
A time for love, a time for hate
A time for peace, I swear it's not too late
LINK
quote:
"Turn! Turn! Turn! (To Everything There Is a Season)", or simply "Turn! Turn! Turn!", is a song written by Pete Seeger in the late 1950s. The lyrics, except for the title, which is repeated throughout the song and the final two lines, are adapted word-for-word from the English version of the first eight verses of the third chapter of the biblical Book of Ecclesiastes.
quote:
The lyrics are taken almost verbatim from the book of Ecclesiastes, as found in the King James Version (1611) of the Bible[2] (Ecclesiastes 3:1-8), though the sequence of the words was rearranged for the song. Ecclesiastes is traditionally ascribed to King Solomon who would have written it in the 10th century BC, but believed by a significant group of biblical scholars to date much later, up to the third century BC.[3]
To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, a time to reap that which is planted;
A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together;
A time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
This post was edited on 6/30/17 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:36 pm to Lg
quote:
Everything you posted above and this statement here tells me everything I need to know that you know nothing about Christianity. Should have figured from an atheist.
I doubt that, but either way, I've consistently shown that I know more about your religion than you do.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:39 pm to FooManChoo
I'm actually wondering if he belongs to the crazy "new atheist" movement that follows Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, and the recently-damned Chris Hitchens.
No.
I was a Christian for much of my life. Then I became more educated outside of my church's propaganda.
Try it sometime.
No.
I was a Christian for much of my life. Then I became more educated outside of my church's propaganda.
Try it sometime.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:41 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
Try it sometime.
Try answering my question sometime.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:41 pm to DawgfaninCa
quote:
believe
quote:
believe
quote:
believe
quote:
believe
This word is almost meaningless to me. You know the drill by now. Ask useful questions if you want useful answers.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:42 pm to DawgfaninCa
quote:
Try answering my question sometime.
I have. Several times now. I don't care if you don't like my answers.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:43 pm to DawgfaninCa
Unless you're are willing to place Muslim, Hindu and every other religion side by side then shut up
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:49 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
This word is almost meaningless to me. You know the drill by now. Ask useful questions if you want useful answers.
Then I'll change my question so you won't have an excuse not to answer it.
Do you think Christians don't think that some things are right to do and some things are wrong to do?
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