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re: Axios is trying to say Trump is losing independents because of deportations.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 4:09 pm to TigerAxeOK
Posted on 1/16/26 at 4:09 pm to TigerAxeOK
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I see this pattern happening a LOT among many of the people I watch
It seems that they are a reflection of the electorate at large.
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but now that they're seeing that there IS no hope, they're lashing out.
That's not it.
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Posted on 1/16/26 at 4:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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..... but ignoring it will be fatal.
Please, do not worry. The cheating associated with voting will not be ignored. The GOP will have all hands on deck, the unconstitutionally gerrymandered districts will be gone, the new legal gerrymandered districts will be in play, and mail in ballots will have to be counted on time.
It is over for the liberals and marxists in this country. Four more days!!
Posted on 1/16/26 at 4:11 pm to imjustafatkid
Almost a super majority of Americans support deporting all illegals from my most recent write up on.
Ice tends to have an underwater perception though due to extremely low Dems at like 9% and independents at -15 while republicans carry at 88%.
To me this indicates the leftist propaganda on ice is having an effect and we need to proceed with prudence
Ice tends to have an underwater perception though due to extremely low Dems at like 9% and independents at -15 while republicans carry at 88%.
To me this indicates the leftist propaganda on ice is having an effect and we need to proceed with prudence
Posted on 1/16/26 at 4:13 pm to imjustafatkid
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This is literally why he was elected.
Immigration was one of his strongest positions, but the people don't like HOW he is going about it and that position has become a lot weaker.
It's a colossal frickup and the reversal, no matter how much sky screaming you see on this board and other pro-Trump echo chambers, won't undo it.
The only group who can undo it is the Trump administration, which would take what they're discussing in OP: reversing course and ignoring the muh fight nonsense for a rational, smart policy.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 4:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Immigration was one of his strongest positions, but the people don't like HOW he is going about it and that position has become a lot weaker.
I agree with this. See my above post.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 4:17 pm to hawkeye007
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hawkeye007
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step out of your circle
Posted on 1/16/26 at 4:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Immigration was one of his strongest positions, but the people don't like HOW he is going about it and that position has become a lot weaker.
It's a colossal frickup and the reversal, no matter how much sky screaming you see on this board and other pro-Trump echo chambers, won't undo it.
The only group who can undo it is the Trump administration, which would take what they're discussing in OP: reversing course and ignoring the muh fight nonsense for a rational, smart policy.
The current policy is the only rational one.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 4:19 pm to td01241
We are on the same page.
It's the emotional types who want the drama of muh fight who are throwing temper tantrums about this. Like I said earlier, it's a "you are here" meme. They're going to move from "this is fake" to "this is the fault of MSM" to "voters didn't reject this; it's clearly voter fraud" by December
It's the emotional types who want the drama of muh fight who are throwing temper tantrums about this. Like I said earlier, it's a "you are here" meme. They're going to move from "this is fake" to "this is the fault of MSM" to "voters didn't reject this; it's clearly voter fraud" by December
Posted on 1/16/26 at 4:21 pm to imjustafatkid
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The current policy is the only rational one.
There was already an entire thread about that False Choice Fallacy earlier today
Posted on 1/16/26 at 4:23 pm to loogaroo
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60% of independent voters and 58% of undecided voters said Trump was "too focused" on deporting illegal immigrants
And 70% of them probably thought too focused meant a good thing.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 4:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
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There was already an entire thread about that False Choice Fallacy earlier today
So defund the police.
Got it.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 4:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
I agree I don’t like the false binary being presented; I also don’t know at what point, which i do believe there is one, these people simply must be crushed because they’ll keep getting more and more aggressive until they are.
Potentially a good idea would be for a lot week or so move to another city. Then come back for a few days. Then go somewhere else. Basically just hop from place to place and never announce it on tweeter beforehand like idiots. Idk I don’t have any good solution to put forth.
But it seems ridiculous we should just allow what a supermajority (almost) of what all Americans want to be stopped by street communist
Potentially a good idea would be for a lot week or so move to another city. Then come back for a few days. Then go somewhere else. Basically just hop from place to place and never announce it on tweeter beforehand like idiots. Idk I don’t have any good solution to put forth.
But it seems ridiculous we should just allow what a supermajority (almost) of what all Americans want to be stopped by street communist
Posted on 1/16/26 at 4:25 pm to dgnx6
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So defund the police.
Nobody stated that straw man.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 4:27 pm to td01241
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But it seems ridiculous we should just allow what a supermajority (almost) of what all Americans want to be stopped by street communist
I don't know if it's THAT supported, at this point, and the voting bloc who swings elections doesn't seem to like this policy implementation or how the aggro policy led to all this chaos in Minnesota, either.
This post was edited on 1/16/26 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 1/16/26 at 4:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
I do research at the college I work for and have been tracking this among other things using 10 polls to get an aggregate and choose my polls to try to grab as best a representative sample as I can get using as many qualitative data samples I find sufficient as well as weighting general party lean for each among other things.
For roughly the last 2 months deporting just criminal illegals has been 76% in my numbers and 62% for all illegals on average in my numbers.
Again this has also seen a decline in ice support mostly this whole time to varying degrees almost solely driven by independents but even a negative 1 delta with republicans. I’m sure these numbers mean something I have my own conclusions
For roughly the last 2 months deporting just criminal illegals has been 76% in my numbers and 62% for all illegals on average in my numbers.
Again this has also seen a decline in ice support mostly this whole time to varying degrees almost solely driven by independents but even a negative 1 delta with republicans. I’m sure these numbers mean something I have my own conclusions
This post was edited on 1/16/26 at 4:33 pm
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