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re: "Big Beautiful Bill" Disaster for America. GOP has failed us. (Redacted & Massie explain)
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:16 am to RollTide4547
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:16 am to RollTide4547
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Shouldnt matter, its not your government doing business, its private entities.
quote:It's the gov't doing it's job... protecting American companies and people rather than catering to another country for likes and personal accolades (like a Nobel Peace Prize)
It shouldn't? Let's see country A says American companies cannot sell cars or motorcycles in country A, but country A sells it's cars and motorcyles in America...
If by central control you mean making other countries treat America fairly. I'm all for that.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:17 am to PUB
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The country is bankrupt
Which is good reason to not back the "big beautiful bill."
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:17 am to RollTide4547
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The number one job is combined DEFENSE. Gotta have a well army/outfitted military to protect us from invasion.
In theory, yes. (But hasn't the gubmint and militart "defense" already allowed the 50 million-strong invasion of foreign "armies", aka illegals to pour through our alleged border unimpeded?)
When was the last time we were threatened with "invasion" or invaded outright?
We can NOT keep giving a blank check to the MIC. We can't keep on inventing bogeymen to justify it. It's bankrupted us already.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:18 am to RollTide4547
quote:uhhhh
No one us usurping anything.
That is literally what tariffs do
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:19 am to roadGator
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I can’t wait for the well thought out rebuttals to this video.
Im waiting for the well thought out plan of action from the libertarians.
But all I see is some blowhards that don't live in reality.
Also that work requirement is supposed to start in 2026. Not several years from now.
This post was edited on 5/23/25 at 11:22 am
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:19 am to I20goon
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t's the gov't doing it's job... protecting American companies
Tariffs penalize small businesses and individuals to prop up massive woke corporations.
Its crony capitalism, period.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:20 am to CastleBravo
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Trump is not an ideological purist like Massie or Paul. He knows compromises need to be made to get what one wants.
Who has he made meaningful compromises with?
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:21 am to dgnx6
I guess we are both waiting.
What I’m waiting for could be provided in this very thread though.
What I’m waiting for could be provided in this very thread though.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:22 am to sorantable
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Who has he made meaningful compromises with?
This trade guru bullshite has turned into an urban legend.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:23 am to roadGator
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I guess we are both waiting.
What I’m waiting for could be provided in this very thread though.
You thought it was a 10,000 page bill. I don't think we have ever had a 10,000 page bill.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:23 am to sorantable
He said Massie should be voted out of office.
The same thing AIPAC wants.
Does that count?
The same thing AIPAC wants.
Does that count?
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:25 am to dgnx6
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You thought it was a 10,000 page bill
You’ve joined the liars club. (Added)
Congrats. Are the t-shirts nice? The logo is cool.
This post was edited on 5/23/25 at 11:42 am
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:28 am to FLTech
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You missed the part about the amount of money tariffs will bring in to our country
No one missed this you retard
We just know it's not going to put a dent in anything
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:31 am to NYNolaguy1
So if you have a checking account and start a side job that brings in $500 million of passive income per day, you are telling me that you haven’t generated extra income that you didn’t have before?
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:48 am to EphesianArmor
yeah... to successfully fear-monger you have to have credibility from past fear-mongering.
Well round back when the economy crashes, every day product prices skyrocket, and store shelves are empty from those dastardly tariffs that 1 Billion well-known PhD economists promised would happen.
Well round back when the economy crashes, every day product prices skyrocket, and store shelves are empty from those dastardly tariffs that 1 Billion well-known PhD economists promised would happen.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:49 am to FLTech
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So if you have a checking account and start a side job that brings in $500 million of passive income per day, you are telling me that you haven’t generated extra income that you didn’t have before?
You're both presenting various arguments made to defend the tariffs, as the admin has presented 4-5 of them that are mutually exclusive.
If you're right, we will get more tariff revenue but will have a smaller GDP and less tax revenue from that smaller GDP. I imagine the GDP loss will be greater, creating a net-negative revenue scenario.
If he's right, our tariff revenue will be much smaller, as the goal would be reduction of tariffs across the board.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:51 am to 4cubbies
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4cubbies
I like how you interject yourself into this pretending to be a spendthrift democrat...
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:53 am to EphesianArmor
Can’t believe a guy who shits in golden toilets doesn’t actually care about government spending.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:53 am to roadGator
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He said Massie should be voted out of office.
Why shouldnt he be if hes just going to complain and do nothing
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