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re: Calls for CNN to fire Rick Santorum over Native American comments
Posted on 4/26/21 at 2:01 pm to blackinthesaddle
Posted on 4/26/21 at 2:01 pm to blackinthesaddle
BBQ
Indians
Lol
Come again?
Indians
Lol
quote:
But barbecues the way that Americans know them now meat cooked over a grill or pit, covered in spices and basting sauce originated in the Caribbean
Come again?
This post was edited on 4/26/21 at 2:03 pm
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 2:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
. I mean, there was nothing here. I
Including the wheel. He's not wrong.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 2:09 pm to roadGator
quote:
originated in the Caribbean
The Americas include the islands of the Caribbean. Maybe you're unfamiliar with geography, history, sociology, etc. The native peoples of the Americas were referred to as Indians. Specifically, bbq was a way of cooking and preserving meat used by the Taino, the people that Christopher Columbus and his crew enslaved, raped, and murdered during his first few incursions.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 2:10 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
believe the wheel was actually invented/discovered by South American Indians (not sure if that is not supposed to count in this discussion.)
I've read that children's toys with wheels have been found in S America. To me, that is one of the most bizarre footnotes in history that no one ever looked at those toys and thought that wheels might be useful in other applications. It makes me suspect that the dating of those toys might be off.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 2:11 pm to blackinthesaddle
Oh. We are now talking about the people Santorum wasn’t talking about
You people are funny.
You people are funny.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 2:11 pm to blackinthesaddle
quote:
BBQ, b*tch.
Every culture in world history "invented" cooking meat over hot coals.
This post was edited on 4/26/21 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 4/26/21 at 2:16 pm to roadGator
quote:
Oh. We are now talking about the people Santorum wasn’t talking about You people are funny.
Who are "you people"?
Santorum and by extension his defenders are willfully ignorant. Native American tribes had large cities and villages throughout the Americas at the time of Christopher Columbus' landing.
quote:
While I was in the boat, I captured a very beautiful Carib woman, whom the said Lord Admiral gave to me. When I had taken her to my cabin she was naked—as was their custom. I was filled with a desire to take my pleasure with her and attempted to satisfy my desire. She was unwilling, and so treated me with her nails that I wished I had never begun. But—to cut a long story short—I then took a piece of rope and whipped her soundly, and she let forth such incredible screams that you would not have believed your ears. Eventually we came to such terms, I assure you, that you would have thought that she had been brought up in a school for whores.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 2:16 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
there was nothing here
dirt mounds and teepees
some culture
Posted on 4/26/21 at 2:18 pm to stlslick
double posted, fixed.
This post was edited on 4/26/21 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 4/26/21 at 2:20 pm to stlslick
quote:
some culture
More from Columbus:
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our work was to exasperate, ravage, kill, mangle and destroy.
And the Christians, with their horses and swords and pikes began to carry out massacres and strange cruelties against them. They attacked the towns and spared neither the children nor the aged nor pregnant women nor women in childbed, not only stabbing them and dismembering them but cutting them to pieces as if dealing with sheep in the slaughter house. They laid bets as to who, with one stroke of the sword, could split a man in two or could cut off his head or spill out his entrails with a single stroke of the pike. They took infants from their mothers’ breasts, snatching them by the legs and pitching them head first against the crags or snatched them by the arms and threw them into the rivers, roaring with laughter and saying as the babies fell into the water, “Boil there, you offspring of the devil!” Other infants they put to the sword along with their mothers and anyone else who happened to be nearby. They made some low wide gallows on which the hanged victim’s feet almost touched the ground, stringing up their victims in lots of thirteen, in memory of Our Redeemer and His twelve Apostles, then set burning wood at their feet and thus burned them alive. To others they attached straw or wrapped their whole bodies in straw and set them afire. With still others, all those they wanted to capture alive, they cut off their hands and hung them round the victim’s neck, saying, “Go now, carry the message,” meaning, Take the news to the Indians who have fled to the mountains. They usually dealt with the chieftains and nobles in the following way: they made a grid of rods which they placed on forked sticks, then lashed the victims to the grid and lighted a smoldering fire underneath, so that little by little, as those captives screamed in despair and torment, their souls would leave them
Posted on 4/26/21 at 2:22 pm to HubbaBubba
Iron Eyes Cody was Italian. He was the original Elizabeth Warren.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 2:25 pm to stlslick
quote:
some culture
From Andrew Jackson:
quote:
The tribes which occupied the countries now constituting the Eastern States were annihilated or have melted away to make room for the whites.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 2:26 pm to blackinthesaddle
quote:I don't know how we could have made it this far without that.
BBQ, b*tch.
What about anything meaningful?
Posted on 4/26/21 at 2:28 pm to blackinthesaddle
quote:
The tribes which occupied the countries now constituting the Eastern States were annihilated or have melted away to make room for the whites.
They were conquered, soundly conquered.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 2:28 pm to shinerfan
quote:Maybe the people were off. But then again some people couldn't pour piss out of a boot if there were instructions written on the sole.
I've read that children's toys with wheels have been found in S America. To me, that is one of the most bizarre footnotes in history that no one ever looked at those toys and thought that wheels might be useful in other applications. It makes me suspect that the dating of those toys might be off.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 2:29 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:Yeah, although I think at least some of that is due to the lack of metallurgy. Not to mention the mountainous terrain of the Andes probably renders a lot of wheeled conveyances moot/impractical.
Indians didn't use the wheel for meaningful advancement (such as transport).
So no wagons, no carts, etc.
But we also have Indian Summer - that's a whole season! And we have Indian givers - that's most people I grew up with.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 2:30 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:
What about anything meaningful?
Define meaningful.
For all your Greek columns hoisted with funds stolen from taxpayers and marbled stairs built by underpaid laborers, I much prefer the sharing of good bbq with friends and family.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 2:31 pm to blackinthesaddle
You people. It’s pretty clear.
Those who want to talk about something Santorum wasn’t talking about.
Like I said. You people are funny.
Those who want to talk about something Santorum wasn’t talking about.
Like I said. You people are funny.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 2:33 pm to roadGator
quote:
something Santorum wasn’t talking about.
Intelligent people consider the implications of their words. Santorum is clearly not one of "those people".
Posted on 4/26/21 at 2:35 pm to blackinthesaddle
CRT people look for grievances in every word.
That’s what you people do.
That’s what you people do.
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