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re: Colorado High School recites Pledge in Arabic. Heads explode.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:58 am to Green Chili Tiger
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:58 am to Green Chili Tiger
For those supporting the Arabic prayer, do you also support the name Washington Redskins? Do you support Donald Sterling's right to own a NBA team? Do you support the right to fly a rebel flag at a football tailgate? Do you support the right of a business owner to not serve homosexuals? Do you support the right of a college fraternity to celebrate Black History Month by having white kids show up in black face?
Many people don't support the above items because it is offensive to certain segments of our society. So if the Arabic pledge is offensive to certain segments of that Colorado community, shouldn't it also be banned?
Many people don't support the above items because it is offensive to certain segments of our society. So if the Arabic pledge is offensive to certain segments of that Colorado community, shouldn't it also be banned?
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:00 am to Green Chili Tiger
Colorado;dr
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:00 am to Choupique19
quote:ok
For those supporting the Arabic prayer,
quote:yes
do you also support the name Washington Redskins?
quote:yes
Do you support Donald Sterling's right to own a NBA team?
quote:ehhhh yes.
Do you support the right to fly a rebel flag at a football tailgate?
quote:no
Do you support the right of a business owner to not serve homosexuals?
quote:yes
Do you support the right of a college fraternity to celebrate Black History Month by having white kids show up in black face?
Most of the above examples are, in my uneducated view, a form of protected speech (albeit, in poor judgement). Denying service to a certain class is not speech, IMO.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:02 am to PrimeTime Money
Right. But there is 1 God whther Allah, Jehovah or bertha or there could be many Gods. Who knows?
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:02 am to Spirit of Dunson
^^^ what he said
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:02 am to Green Chili Tiger
I betcha a dollar to a dime, that sonuvabitch Obama put 'em up to this!
I don't want my boy talkin' in no communist gibberish. And he ain't gon' be pledgin' to no "ALLAH!"
'Round these parts in public schools, we pledge to the real LORD in the 'Merican language! Amen!! Praise the Lord!!
I don't want my boy talkin' in no communist gibberish. And he ain't gon' be pledgin' to no "ALLAH!"
'Round these parts in public schools, we pledge to the real LORD in the 'Merican language! Amen!! Praise the Lord!!
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:03 am to Spirit of Dunson
Sounds good. 
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 10:04 am
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:03 am to UPT
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:04 am to Green Chili Tiger
quote:
Where do the prayer in school advocates stand on this?
religion in school is only appropriate when its their religion.
When its the brown ppl's religion, its a problem.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:05 am to Hawkeye95
quote:
religion in school is only appropriate when its their religion.
When its the brown ppl's religion, its a problem.
Two can play that game.
Freedom of speech is only appropriate when it supports liberal views.
When it's tea party/conservative hatred being spewed, it's a problem.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:06 am to Hawkeye95
quote:
religion in school is only appropriate when its their religion.
Yep. But it's nice when things like this happen and they are forced to admit it.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:07 am to Choupique19
When are liberals and conservatives going to realize that they are the opposite sides of the same coin! Your war on christmas is their war on women. A perceived victimhood that hardens your opposition to others.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:09 am to UGATiger26
quote:
But technically (and theologically) speaking, aren't Allah and the Christian God supposed to be the same entity?
No.
quote:
And btw Allah means God. If you were to say God is Great in English, it would translate to Allahu Akbar. Allah is still the God of Abraham
And no again.
Twofer. Solid work.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:11 am to GoCrazyAuburn
quote:
If not, here is the question. If they had a big controversy last year with Spanish, why they hell was their next choice Arabic?
b/c the people who were dumb enough to get pissed about the Spanish one deserve to have their day ruined again by the Arabic version.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:12 am to Dr RC
quote:
b/c the people who were dumb enough to get pissed about the Spanish one deserve to have their day ruined again by the Arabic version.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:12 am to SidewalkDawg
quote:
If the pledge was recited in Arabic, they would not have literally said "and one nation under Allah". That would be an amalgamation of English and Arabic and most likely used by the media to spark anger in ignorant folk. The entire phrase would have been said in Arabic.
I understand what you're saying, it doesn't change that for most people, including Arabic speakers, Allah is the diety of Islam, not merely the Arabic translation of a generic God.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:13 am to Wolfhound45
Yes, the translation of the English word, "God", is, "Allah", in Arabaic.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:16 am to UPT
quote:
Yes, the translation of the English word, "God", is, "Allah", in Arabaic.
Kind of, although it isn't like we had our word for the Christian deity, "God" and subsequently Arabic speakers created the word "Allah" to mean the same (or vice versa).
These are two words that over time have encompassed entirely separate concepts and connotations, despite a similar or perhaps shared starting point.
Equating them is just intellectually dishonest at this point.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:17 am to Dam Guide
quote:
So the big problem is ignorant Americans that can't understand that Allah means God? It's funny that even the Muslim guy admits that Christians in the Arabic world use the word Allah to refer to God and people still don't care beause it's not the 'Merican term.
Maybe you should just take out the '50s communist scare addition of "under God" back out of the pledge so you don't have to hear about "under Allah" anymore.
THIS.
The only argument to keep it there is that it could represent everyone, which it clearly doesn't.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:18 am to Pettifogger
quote:But do you not see how in this context it is a literal translation? Or do you just choose to think the school is using propaganda to turn the kids towards Islam?
I understand what you're saying, it doesn't change that for most people, including Arabic speakers, Allah is the diety of Islam, not merely the Arabic translation of a generic God.
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