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re: Cool Video Describing Ancient Christian Liturgy
Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:49 pm to TIGA 80
Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:49 pm to TIGA 80
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To Justify their denomination they have to put down the original christian faith
Well that can't be it, because they generally aren't putting us down, rather they are putting down Catholics. Just saying.
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:54 pm to TIGA 80
It's really simple. do you believe in a God of order or a God of chaos.
One Holy Catholic (greek for universal) Apostolic Church with a Bishop, who is first amongst equals, to preside over the congregation along with other bishops who advise and support. Having one understanding of the faith.
On the other hand you can have 30k different churches all with a different understanding of the faith and scripture that each preacher can determine themselves.
One Holy Catholic (greek for universal) Apostolic Church with a Bishop, who is first amongst equals, to preside over the congregation along with other bishops who advise and support. Having one understanding of the faith.
On the other hand you can have 30k different churches all with a different understanding of the faith and scripture that each preacher can determine themselves.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:56 pm to 62zip
Because yall used to hunt us down and kill us and then there is the perversion of the Word. That too of course. Jesus, I think, would rebel against your hierarchy.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:59 pm to TIGA 80
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:00 am to Richleau
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Because yall used to hunt us down and kill us and then there is the perversion of the Word. That too of course. Jesus, I think, would rebel against your hierarchy.
Again, who is y'all?
Sounds like your beef is Catholics, so why would you be addressing me? Is your reading comprehension really that bad?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:04 am to Richleau
Now for all those Bible Christians.
Not all that Jesus taught could be written down. Therefore the apostles handed down the traditions that jesus taught them, verbally and by the practice of the faith
John 21:25 ?
Now, there are many other things that Jesus did. If they were all written down one by one, I suppose that the whole world could not hold the books that would be written.
Not all that Jesus taught could be written down. Therefore the apostles handed down the traditions that jesus taught them, verbally and by the practice of the faith
John 21:25 ?
Now, there are many other things that Jesus did. If they were all written down one by one, I suppose that the whole world could not hold the books that would be written.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:04 am to 62zip
Calm yourself.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:05 am to Richleau
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Calm yourself.
I'm plenty calm - just waiting patiently for you to answer several questions, but for some reason you seem incapable.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:06 am to TIGA 80
So let’s just make stuff up then. Rosaries and the hierarchy and the like. Yep. Oh and why not clowns and juggling monkeys then too. I mean, sure, Jesus didn’t write it down but we all know he loved clowns and juggling monkeys. Come on man..
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:19 am to TIGA 80
As to Peter, the bishop of Rome, which is what the pope is.
He is first amongst equals with the other apostles but someone had to be in charge. Notice Peter is always mentioned by name first. Peter and the apostles.
Right before jesus changed simon's name to peter. what happened? Jesus asked the apostles who is it you say i am? some said Elijah, or one of the other jewish prophets. but peter said You are the Christ, the Son of the living God’” (Matthew 16.15-16) and jesus says that God his father reveled that to simon so therefore jesus took that as a sign from god that Peter was the guy to lead the church.
Giving the keys to the kingdom was also special in that Kings would entrust their wealth to a trusted servant when the king traveled by giving him the keys to the kingdom while he was gone.
lastly, the gates of hell will not prevail against his church which was started on pentecost. in 33ad. He didnt say that satan wouldnt try and yes we have had bad priest and popes they are human. But the doctrine of the faith cant be messed with cause the holy spirit makes sure of that.
Or did jesus say oh ill wait 1500 years to start my church with some guy named martin luther.
He is first amongst equals with the other apostles but someone had to be in charge. Notice Peter is always mentioned by name first. Peter and the apostles.
Right before jesus changed simon's name to peter. what happened? Jesus asked the apostles who is it you say i am? some said Elijah, or one of the other jewish prophets. but peter said You are the Christ, the Son of the living God’” (Matthew 16.15-16) and jesus says that God his father reveled that to simon so therefore jesus took that as a sign from god that Peter was the guy to lead the church.
Giving the keys to the kingdom was also special in that Kings would entrust their wealth to a trusted servant when the king traveled by giving him the keys to the kingdom while he was gone.
lastly, the gates of hell will not prevail against his church which was started on pentecost. in 33ad. He didnt say that satan wouldnt try and yes we have had bad priest and popes they are human. But the doctrine of the faith cant be messed with cause the holy spirit makes sure of that.
Or did jesus say oh ill wait 1500 years to start my church with some guy named martin luther.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:33 am to Furious
You cannot be more ignorant of history, which is to say, a typical modern Catholic.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:44 am to mudshuvl05
Christ is risen, brother! Good to see fellow Orthodox Chrstians on here in a sea of pitifully ignorant Catholics that only know the kindergarten version of history and somehow even more ignorant & blasphemous protestants
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 1:45 am
Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:46 am to Lt. Columbo
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pitifully ignorant Catholics
Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:29 am to mudshuvl05
Orthodox left the church for many reason. The biggest one is the filioque, which is funny because even inside the Orthodox Church it’s argued. Some agree and some don’t. The Holy Spirit does proceed from the Father AND The Son. Of course the orthodox will say that the Pope of the time changed this and that’s why they don’t acknowledge the Pope. There were already fractures happening before this in the east and the west. What is nice is The Catholic Church will acknowledge the sacrament of the orthodox and allow them to take communion. The same isn’t offered in return. I would love to see the two churches rejoin as One church.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:42 am to 62zip
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Catholic claiming that Orthodoxy was "modified and watered it down to make it palatable to the average person"?
Sorry that's not what I said. But I don't fault you for not understanding I consider both East and West to be the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. One true bride of Christ Jesus.
The rest reject Jesus the Christ true God and True Man or Reject his teachings through the Apostles out of convenience to their worldly desires.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:46 am to TIGA 80
Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:14 am to cssamerican
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You do realize we have manuscripts that date within a century or two of Jesus’ ministry. They can go back and translate those (and they have) and most Bibles aren’t adding a bunch of information that isn’t in the original documents. For the most part, the 1611 translations is quite accurate.The difference in translation is usually readability and direct word for word style translation (ESV & NASB) or thought for thought translations like (NLT & NIV)
here's the problem with that jethro the bible's original sources where written in hebrew, aramahic and greek translated into latin in 400 AD by saint jerome.and universally understood for the next 1200 years until you protestants showed up to tell us we'd gotten all wrong your arrogance is astounding.
so i believe that jesus didn't have bothers and sisters, that mary remained a virgin her entire live and was assumed into heaven, the intersession of saints and that the sacrament of communion is the actual body and blood of christ and so did every body else for the first 1600 years after christ death and resurrection.
here's the good news the only place that the protestant church has ever mattered is in the new nighted states of merica n' such and thankfully it's in it's death throws as we speak the methodist are debating trinitarian theology, the divinity of christ and whether or not the apostles where his merry band of homosexuals.
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 7:26 am
Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:30 am to RescueT
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Orthodox left the church for many reason
4 to 1 says it was Rome that left.
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The biggest one is the filioque, which is funny because even inside the Orthodox Church it’s argued.
No, it's not. It's not even up for debate.
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Some agree and some don’t.
Simply not true. The only "orthodox" that accept the filioque are schismatics.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:52 am to SkiUtah420
Love shitting on boomers and Protestants.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:44 am to 62zip
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So about that grape juice...
Maybe you try reading the actual Bible for yourself? When Christ speaks on communion, the term 'wine' is not used. He says 'fruit of the vine'. Which is exactly what grape juice it
Your ignorance is astounding in this thread
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For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come - Luke.
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Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God. - Mark
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