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re: Epstein maximalists: please step off the crazy train

Posted on 3/5/26 at 10:51 am to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 3/5/26 at 10:51 am to
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n the other hand, have dismissed the entire concept of "trafficking" yet that's exactly what Maxwell was convicted of and what Epstein almost certainly would have been convicted of. Sex trafficking happened, and all of the "there is no direct credible evidence" claims don't change that.


Epstein was never convicted of trafficking.

As for Maxwell, her trial seems fricky at best:

--out of the government's own claimed pool of supposedly 1000+ "victims", precisely FOUR were brought to testify at trial (this means that they intentionally did NOT call Giuffre, BTW). Based on the profile and/or testimony of all 4, it actually seems amazing that a conviction was secured. One was an active schizophrenic. One had a major monetary incentive. One alleged she was victimized in an orgy, yet the prosecution did not call any of the other identified participants. SO...the DEFENSE called them, and they said no orgy ever happened. etc.

--bad jury: AT LEAST one of the jurors lied on the intake forms about having been a personal victim of sexual abuse (possibly 2 or even 3). When it looked as if an acquittal were coming, this person stood up and gave an impassioned plea of "this happened to ME. we need to BELIEVE THESE WOMEN"

--the whole "interstate commerce" angle to establish "trafficking" was absurd...the massage table was made out of state. That was the hook


There's more, but it's very odd that people will believe ANY CRAZY CONSPIRACY, yet ignore government lawfare and other crazy tactics as well as lousy juries. The fact that her appeal has been denied is crazy.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/5/26 at 11:05 am to
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We've watched this thing snowball into a full-blown moral panic - based on almost zero actual information.


We have enough information to know that the world is being run by a bunch of pedophiles.

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As evidence, I offer the work of journalist Michael Tracey.




No, the reason you want us to stop looking at the Epstein files is no different from this:

Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39327 posts
Posted on 3/5/26 at 11:26 am to
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OMLandshark
Please give a detailed list of your problems with the reporting of Michael Tracey. Was it his lack of credulousness of the Russiagate moral panic?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39327 posts
Posted on 3/5/26 at 12:55 pm to
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You can read Epstein's wiki page and connect the dots. They're rather large and obvious.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/5/26 at 1:09 pm to
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We have enough information to know that the world is being run by a bunch of pedophiles.


Update: we do not.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39327 posts
Posted on 3/5/26 at 2:00 pm to
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We have enough information to know that the world is being run by a bunch of pedophiles.
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