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Posted on 2/22/26 at 3:42 pm to northshorebamaman
Of course they did. That’s why golf voted for him. All 3 times.
But they’re now shocked, shocked I say.
And just by this one issue.
You and I keep asking logical questions expecting to get a logical and truthful answer
Golf dug in in his first paragraph and has since dug himselfto such a ridiculous position that it appears it’s better to him to just keep looking more like a fool than to be honest and correct his original position so we can at least have an honest disagreement
But they’re now shocked, shocked I say.
And just by this one issue.
You and I keep asking logical questions expecting to get a logical and truthful answer
Golf dug in in his first paragraph and has since dug himselfto such a ridiculous position that it appears it’s better to him to just keep looking more like a fool than to be honest and correct his original position so we can at least have an honest disagreement
Posted on 2/22/26 at 3:45 pm to northshorebamaman
I would say look no further than the extreme and commendable restraint he’s exercised in terms of “payback” for the unjustified political prosecution he endured leading up to the last election. He’s exercised that restraint even in the face of loud public outcry from his own supporters for him to do so. Folks are even outraged that he hasn’t, but IMO it’s exactly correct, and in my views it demonstrates his genuine commitment to refusing to abuse his power and authority, in spite of the fact that he could, and despite the fact that he has every reason to be motivated to do so - as it caused him and his family and friends and associates a great deal of suffering and damage.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 3:46 pm to jammajin
Sounds like you should start a consulting company helping business deal with tariffs. Send me your details if you do.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 3:50 pm to jammajin
quote:I'll admit it was a trick question.
Of course they did. That’s why golf voted for him. All 3 times.
If he says yes then he has no reason to complain now because his policies, including tariffs are consistent with his first term, and differ mostly in scope only.
If he says no, then he has no reason to complain because he has no reason to expect consistency.
Either way, as a 3X Trump voter, he's getting exactly what he voted for and should stop complaining about Trump fulfilling his promises.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 3:50 pm to sgallo3
quote:.
You obviously do not run a business.
I do and yo obviously have not paid attention the past year on how the lie about tariffs has been disproved.
We cannot be a nation of world produced goods..
Ross Perot warned the his fellow dems that a nation that does not manufacture and produce would like jobs and fall on hard economies.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 3:53 pm to davyjones
So you would you say his second term is consistent with his first? If yes, we're making the same argument, just starting from different directions.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 3:54 pm to northshorebamaman
I did begin to get that sense. My bad on the misunderstanding.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 4:49 pm to jammajin
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engaged my attorney and spent $4000 in January 2025 to implement language into our quotes, invoices, contracts etc etc that dealt with pricing something at X price at the moment it was quoted (to me or from me) while stipulating that pricing swings outside our control (like whip sawing tariff amounts) would be dealt with and passed along or stopped (first 10% we wil absorb, any additinal changes related ot tariffs will be passed along to our customer or not allowed by our vendor), and then priced my products to take into account the 10% I absorbed (where I needed to). where it doesn't apply I make 10% more than I would have. Where it does I'm good. Where it exceeds that a vendor can decide to supply my order, delay to see it tariff changes, or violate the contract they signed beforehand.
Sounds like a simple business. Glad it is working for you. Unfortunately, it is not so easy or black and white in more complex businesses.
If you are able to be more profitable in your business because of increased tariffs, that is commendable. And you should really set up a consulting firm. It would do well.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 4:54 pm to lsugolf1105
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Sounds like you should start a consulting company helping business deal with tariffs. Send me your details if you do.
Well, according to Mensa, .all you had to do was spend 4K on an attorney and your tariff exposure would have been completely abrogated.
And while I doubt he owns runs and company of any size, he damn sure doesn’t play in the industrial sandbox.
This post was edited on 2/22/26 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 2/22/26 at 4:55 pm to northshorebamaman
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Either way, as a 3X Trump voter, he's getting exactly what he voted for and should stop complaining about Trump fulfilling his promises.
Again, no India tariffs in his first term and didn’t campaign on 50% tariffs in India in his second term.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 5:35 pm to lsugolf1105
quote:And? When he was questioned on country specific rates he gave ranges up to + 60%. Did he give a specific rate or lay out an exemption for India? If not common sense should tell you that India would possibly be hit with the same rates.
Again, no India tariffs in his first term and didn’t campaign on 50% tariffs in India in his second term.
You had no problem with him campaigning on north of 60 for some countries, what makes India different? That it affects you and not just other people?
Tough shite.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 5:43 pm to northshorebamaman
Given his relationship with India, his actions in his first term, and the fact that most of my competitors buy their products from China, I voted for him. Not sure what is so unbelievable about that.
And yes, I will complain about fluctuating, non-authorized tariffs on India.
And yes, I will complain about fluctuating, non-authorized tariffs on India.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 5:58 pm to lsugolf1105
quote:There it is. You thought you were voting for pain on other people and instead you caught a stray.
Given his relationship with India, his actions in his first term, and the fact that most of my competitors buy their products from China, I voted for him. Not sure what is so unbelievable about that.
I’ve been anti-Trump since the escalator ride, so none of this surprises me. He governed his entire first term through tariffs and unilateral trade fights. Steel and aluminum tariffs on allies. The China trade war that hit farmers and required bailouts. Threats of tariffs on Mexico over immigration. Tariffs as leverage in nearly every negotiation. He openly argued that trade deficits were “losses” and that tariffs were a revenue tool. That wasn’t hidden. It was his whole brand.
Then he spent four years out of office promising even broader tariffs, floating across-the-board rates and signaling he’d use executive authority aggressively. He has never been shy about treating tariffs as a hammer for everything from trade disputes to geopolitical signaling.
So when you vote for that three times because you think it will hurt your competitors more than you, you didn't vote for a scalpel. You voted for a blunt instrument. You were just hoping you stood behind it instead of in front of it.
I don’t have much sympathy for someone who begged for the medicine and now wants to spit it out because it turns out he doesn't like the taste. The warning label was eight years long. You asked for this. Not me. Frankly, I don't care if you choke on it.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 6:13 pm to northshorebamaman
So you are ok with the president having full control over tariffs instead of congress?
Posted on 2/22/26 at 6:24 pm to lsugolf1105
quote:Did you even read my post? I said right in the beginning that I've been anti-Trump since 2015. I’m very much not okay with that. It's why I didn't vote for it (three times).
So you are ok with the president having full control over tariffs instead of congress?
And one of the core reasons I didn’t support Trump is precisely because he telegraphed, repeatedly, that he views executive authority as elastic. In his first term he used Section 232 and Section 301 to impose tariffs with minimal congressional involvement. He threatened tariffs as a negotiating tactic on everything from trade to immigration. He openly framed tariffs as a tool he would deploy at will.
Then, after leaving office, he explicitly floated broader, more sweeping tariff plans and talked about using executive power aggressively in a second term. It wasn’t subtle. It was part of the pitch.
So no, I’m not “okay” with a president consolidating tariff power away from Congress. That’s why I didn’t vote for a man who made it very clear he would do just that.
If someone voted for him knowing that history and those promises, they can’t clutch at their pearls now that he’s doing what he said he would do.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 6:40 pm to Ten Bears
I own a mechanical contracting firm. We buy large pieces of equipment for installation in construction projects mailnly in industrial medical office and educational settings
We buy from large multinational equipment manufacturers
You and lsugolf are disingenuous idiots using the SC decision to score political points. And youre not even very good at it
I’ve now disclosed both what I do and how I’ve done it as evidence of a way to deal with tariffs
Lsugolf has done nothing but say he voted for Trump 3 times and complain about tariffs with no detail as to how they affect him.
Take your Mensa comment and shove it up your arse or give us some real world issues
We buy from large multinational equipment manufacturers
You and lsugolf are disingenuous idiots using the SC decision to score political points. And youre not even very good at it
I’ve now disclosed both what I do and how I’ve done it as evidence of a way to deal with tariffs
Lsugolf has done nothing but say he voted for Trump 3 times and complain about tariffs with no detail as to how they affect him.
Take your Mensa comment and shove it up your arse or give us some real world issues
This post was edited on 2/22/26 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 2/22/26 at 6:44 pm to northshorebamaman
I guess you are right. Thinking I was going to get something consistent out of trump was not sound judgment lol. And thinking he wouldn’t go to extreme measures, even outside of his authority, to impose tariffs was a bit naive.
This post was edited on 2/22/26 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 2/22/26 at 6:47 pm to lsugolf1105
Since you won’t be honest or give us any concrete detail I’ll have to make a sweeping assumption that your buddy doesn’t like
The answer is both. A liar and a fool.
I don’t have time to start a consulting firm. I’m too busy taking advantage of all the tax breaks included for corporations in the big beautiful law by fulfilling customers demands. Surprisingly to you, with their ability to write off so much of new additions they don’t really give a rats arse about tariffs. They expect me to manage that for them
If I did start a consulting business I wouldn’t start it by taking on liars and fools for clients so you’d be shite outta luck. Maybe see your Mensa friend for some good advice
The answer is both. A liar and a fool.
I don’t have time to start a consulting firm. I’m too busy taking advantage of all the tax breaks included for corporations in the big beautiful law by fulfilling customers demands. Surprisingly to you, with their ability to write off so much of new additions they don’t really give a rats arse about tariffs. They expect me to manage that for them
If I did start a consulting business I wouldn’t start it by taking on liars and fools for clients so you’d be shite outta luck. Maybe see your Mensa friend for some good advice
Posted on 2/22/26 at 6:47 pm to jammajin
I gave this example in another thread.
Here is another example that I had come up a few months back.
Quoted a job for a data center. Customer wanted delivered price to his doorstep. No verbiage for price adjustment because of tariffs would be entertained. At the time of quotation, tariff was 25%. We quoted the job accounting for the 25% tariff but margin wasn’t great. Competitive bid and fairly large - $1M. So we got the order and shipped the product a few months later from India. When the container landed in the US, the tariff rate was 50%. So, we had to pay $500k to just get the product out of the port and delivered. Needless to say, we lost a little money on the job. All good. We took the risk. It didn’t work out.
Who do you think absorbed that hit? I didn’t pass it on to the customer. I ate it. And I didn’t magically get an 25% discount from the supplier. And now the Supreme Court says that the government didn’t have the authority to impose that tariff? You think I shouldn’t want a refund?
Here is another example that I had come up a few months back.
Quoted a job for a data center. Customer wanted delivered price to his doorstep. No verbiage for price adjustment because of tariffs would be entertained. At the time of quotation, tariff was 25%. We quoted the job accounting for the 25% tariff but margin wasn’t great. Competitive bid and fairly large - $1M. So we got the order and shipped the product a few months later from India. When the container landed in the US, the tariff rate was 50%. So, we had to pay $500k to just get the product out of the port and delivered. Needless to say, we lost a little money on the job. All good. We took the risk. It didn’t work out.
Who do you think absorbed that hit? I didn’t pass it on to the customer. I ate it. And I didn’t magically get an 25% discount from the supplier. And now the Supreme Court says that the government didn’t have the authority to impose that tariff? You think I shouldn’t want a refund?
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