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re: HLI: Update/resurrection
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:22 am to TheFranchise
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:22 am to TheFranchise
quote:
I'd be careful with The Secret Teachings of All Ages. As a Rosicrucian, we are taught not to divulge the true secrets...unless someone asks directly (when the student is ready, the master will appear). I haven't read it (but I will) but I wonder if it's filled with untruths and half truths to mislead the reader.
Thanks for the input
Can you elaborate more about your background with the Rosicrucians and how this query process takes place (if able to)? I have not been able to view the 4 hour vid that was linked in the thread (yet).
I hope we are barking up the right trees. My approach has been to use current science knowledge to reassess /question ancient phenomenon. This is why I enjoy Randall's contributions. Some of the other texts /references start getting very esoteric. At that point the reader is left to "take the info on faith" from sources who may have unclear intentions (disinformation). Any input or reading recs on your end would be appreciated.
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Posted on 4/15/17 at 10:17 am to TheFranchise
quote:
Be careful with The Secret Teachings of All Ages
Still reading it (early in), but very interesting stuff....
quote:
THE NINE WORLDS OF THE ODINIC MYSTERIES.
The Nordic Mysteries were given in nine chambers, or caverns, the candidate advancing through them in sequential order. These chambers of initiation represented the nine spheres into which the Drottars divided the universe: (1) Asgard, the Heaven World of the Gods; (2) Alf-heim, the World of the light and beautiful Elves, or Spirits; (3) Nifl-heim, the World of Cold and Darkness, which is located in the North; (4) Jotun-heim, the World of the Giants, which is located in the East; (5) Midgard, the Earth World of human beings, which is located in the midst, or middle place; (6) Vana-heim, the World of the Vanes, which is located in the West; (7) Muspells-heim, the World of Fire, which is located in the South; 8) Svart-alfa-heim, the World of the dark and treacherous Elves, which is under the earth; and (9) Hel-heim, the World of cold and the abode of the dead, which is located at the very lowest point of the universe. It is to be understood that all of these worlds are invisible to the senses, except Midgard, the home of human creatures, but during the process of initiation the soul of the candidate—liberated from its earthly sheath by the secret power of the priests—wanders amidst the inhabitants of these various spheres. There is undoubtedly a relationship between the nine worlds of the Scandinavians and the nine spheres, or planes, through which initiates of the Eleusinian Mysteries passed in their ritual of regeneration.
More background is given in the book, but from this above you should picture the Marvel references to Thor (Asgard,Odin, Loki, multiple dimensions/planes of existence) , the Lord of the Rings series (Middle Earth, elves..), and Game of Thrones (land of cold in the North, giants, geographical /directional symbolism, etc). Dragons and comets are also very important in Game of Thrones cannon....
Led Zeppelin
"Ramble On"
Leaves are falling all around, It's time I was on my way.
Thanks to you, I'm much obliged for such a pleasant stay.
But now it's time for me to go. The autumn moon lights my way.
For now I smell the rain, and with it pain, and it's headed my way.
Sometimes I grow so tired, but I know I've got one thing I got to do...
[Chorus]
Ramble On, And now's the time, the time is now, to sing my song.
I'm goin' 'round the world, I got to find my girl, on my way.
I've been this way ten years to the day, Ramble On,
Gotta find the queen of all my dreams.
Got no time to for spreadin' roots, The time has come to be gone.
And to' our health we drank a thousand times, it's time to Ramble On.
[Chorus]
Mine's a tale that can't be told, my freedom I hold dear.
How years ago in days of old, when magic filled the air.
T'was in the darkest depths of Mordor, I met a girl so fair.
But Gollum, and the evil one crept up and slipped away with her, her, her....yeah.
[Chorus]
Gonna ramble on, sing my song. Gotta keep-a-searchin' for my baby...
Gonna work my way, round the world. I can't stop this feelin' in my heart
Gotta keep searchin' for my baby. I can't find my bluebird!
Another example of being surrounded by this information (in music and movies). Could not resist
It gets freakier when you consider the DMT work of Rick Strassman (book = DMT:the spirit molecule) . Independent test subjects report connecting with other sentient beings while being administered DMT. Terrenace McKenna has described "mechanical elves" while in altered states. The described independent experiences are eerily similar.
Post is a little off topic, but hopefully entertaining at the least
This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 10:28 am
Posted on 4/15/17 at 12:57 pm to ThinePreparedAni
quote:
how this query process takes place
very similar to HLI's threads. He won't volunteer information, but hopes the participants will ask the right questions. There are two basic reasons for this: if you start just espousing the hidden mysteries of the ages, you will be thought a kook; and, requiring the learner to ask the right questions not only shows they're ready to learn but capable of forming the discernment (asking the right questions) necessary to comprehend.
A good place to start for queries might be to find certain things HLI has stated about which you may be confused, want clarity or upon which you would like for someone to expound upon on a more in-depth basis.
This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:07 pm to TheFranchise
We are all on the right tracks in this thread. It's the questioning/seeking that gets one headed in the right direction as opposed to simply accepting "what is, is; what will be, will be".
I will put together a good reading list, let me have some input from the folks paying attention to this thread on subject matters of interest.
The Bicameral Mind work is a great starting point and Westworld is something with which to be familiar. As campy as it seems, Rhonda Byrne really has tapped into the ancient mysteries, but that's only a very very initial starting point...think The Secret on steroids.
I will put together a good reading list, let me have some input from the folks paying attention to this thread on subject matters of interest.
The Bicameral Mind work is a great starting point and Westworld is something with which to be familiar. As campy as it seems, Rhonda Byrne really has tapped into the ancient mysteries, but that's only a very very initial starting point...think The Secret on steroids.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 5:26 pm to TheFranchise
quote:
As campy as it seems, Rhonda Byrne really has tapped into the ancient mysteries, but that's only a very very initial starting point...think The Secret on steroids.
I was not familiar with her. I reviewed a few summaries about her.
I very much buy into the "visualize your world" perspective. A very interesting confluence of events a few years ago led to me coming across the books below:
Psych
Biocentrism - Lanza
The Field - McTaggart
Around the same time, I came across meditation and Buddhist teachings
The TL/DR version:
All of these references make a case for:
-the power of positive thinking
-the ability to dream or think your reality into existence
-the interconnectedness of the universe (Lanza and McTaggart argue at the level of quantum mechanics)
What you end up with is a reality in which something akin to "The Force" exists...
The rub is you have to believe (within the backdrop of a perceived reality that makes it next to impossible to "believe" in a concept like this)
Our "busy" modern lifestyles place very little emphasis on contemplative /reflective practices. This is viewed as woo woo BS/waste of time.
HLI emphasizes a general de-evolution of conciousness. Modernity appears to be a good driver of this process.
On the flip side of the positive attributes I mentioned above, the converse also holds true. You can think/dream your own hell (or limited unfulfilled life) into existence (learned helplessness, media negativity bias, etc..) Some would argue that this is the default mode for many...
"Welcome To The Machine"
Welcome my son, welcome to the machine.
Where have you been? It's alright we know where you've been.
You've been in the pipeline, filling in time,
provided with toys and Scouting for Boys.
You bought a guitar to punish your ma,
And you didn't like school, and you know you're nobody's fool,
So welcome to the machine.
Welcome my son, welcome to the machine.
What did you dream? It's alright we told you what to dream.
You dreamed of a big star, he played a mean guitar,
He always ate in the Steak Bar. He loved to drive in his Jaguar.
So welcome to the machine.
This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 5:54 pm
Posted on 4/15/17 at 8:08 pm to ThinePreparedAni
This is exactly why I cherish your contributions so much. You definitely "get it" TPA. It was a similar confluence of events, and a lifetime of understanding that something more exists but not necessarily knowing where to look to figure it out, which a few years back led me down the path of the rosy cross. I've also delved into other paths. Lanza and McTaggart are along the path to a correct understanding.
When you consider we, and everything, are but a collection of atoms, you can really get into the facts of the vibratory and energetic nature of all of creation and from there is where consciousness begins to arise.
There's not much to the ancient mysteries which aren't readily discoverable once you begin to understand the symbologies and understand where to look for the parables that reveal the secrets. It's all right there in the New Testament hiding in plain sight.
When you consider we, and everything, are but a collection of atoms, you can really get into the facts of the vibratory and energetic nature of all of creation and from there is where consciousness begins to arise.
There's not much to the ancient mysteries which aren't readily discoverable once you begin to understand the symbologies and understand where to look for the parables that reveal the secrets. It's all right there in the New Testament hiding in plain sight.
Posted on 4/16/17 at 9:11 pm to ThinePreparedAni
Posted on 4/16/17 at 11:22 pm to Darkomantis
"Calculations based upon Plutarch's description of ancient voyages seem to indicate that the Greeks not
only reached the coast of America, but explored the St. Lawrence river and part of the Great Lakes area. Plato,
in his treatise on the destruction of Atlantis, wrote that due to the commotions in the ocean caused by the
submergence of a vast continent, all navigation to the west ceased for a long period of time. This statement can
only imply that such navigation had taken place in remote times. "
----------
"Wise men, the ancients believed, were a separate race, and to be born into this race it was necessary to
develop the mind to a state of enlightened intelligence. The old philosophers taught that physical birth is an
accident, for men are born into various races and nationalities according to the laws of generation; but there is a
second birth, which is not an accident; it is the consequence of a proper intent. By this second birth man is born
by enlightened intelligence out of nation and out of race into an international nation and an international race.
It is this larger and coming race that will some day inherit the earth. But unless a man be born again by
enlightenment, he shall not be a part of the philosophic empire. "
----------
"In the Compania, not far from Rome, stood the deserted ruins of an ancient city which had been
destroyed by the vandalism of men and the crumbling forces of time; Plotinus asked that this become the site
of a habitation for the learned, that here with funds raised from both public and private sources a noble
community be built, to be ruled over by the laws set forth in the writings of Plato, and to honor the great man
the city should be called Platonopolis.
Plotinus pointed out that such a project would not only bring honor to the wise but would confer
immortality upon the name of the emperor, lasting dignity upon the whole of the Roman Empire. Galienus
came to favor the project as the noblest experiment in time. But the Roman Senate viewed the matter with
suspicion and alarm. To them it would be a serious misfortune for the aristocracy of wealth to be challenged by
the aristocracy of learning!--the philosophers' city might finally overthrow the Empire. Always, philosophers
had been especially troublesome to the smug, and Rome was in the advanced state of smugness that
immediately preceded the complete collapse of the entire Empire."
----------
"We are indebted to these Brothers of the Quest for our sciences, arts, and crafts of today. They were the
discoverers; they were the astronomers, scientists, physicians, mathematicians, and artists whose works we
treasure but whose dreams we have ignored. They gave knowledge to the world to make men happy. We have
used their knowledge to make a few men rich. We have perverted their skill, desecrated their dreams, and
profaned their mysticism. But the knowledge they have given us is available to be used in a nobler way, and
some day we shall awaken to our responsibility with the realization that it is our common duty to restore the
dignity of learning and dedicate unselfishly to the human need."
----------
"To summarize the opinions of Nostradamus concerning the future destiny of Western civilization is
difficult, because of the involved idiom of the original text. But he points out clearly certain things that will
happen. He saw that a great civilization would rise in the western world. This civilization would free itself
from the bonds to its mother country, and then assume a free place among the temporal powers. The new
country would flourish and extend its domain across the entire continent. It would grow rich and powerful, he
predicted, and live at peace with its sister, (Canada). He said that America would have to fight several wars,
including one with the Orient. This conflict he describes as an eagle flying against the rising sun, and in his day
neither the eagle nor the rising sun had significance of the slightest importance in the symbolism of nations.
Fulfilling its destiny, Nostradamus foretold that America would become a great power in a pattern of
world peace and would be looked up to by other nations for leadership against the common evils of the time. In
short, as Nostradamus foretells the story of the Blessed Isles it is precisely according to the Platonic tradition;
and we can not but wonder if he was a party to that tradition, and knew exactly whereof he spoke."
only reached the coast of America, but explored the St. Lawrence river and part of the Great Lakes area. Plato,
in his treatise on the destruction of Atlantis, wrote that due to the commotions in the ocean caused by the
submergence of a vast continent, all navigation to the west ceased for a long period of time. This statement can
only imply that such navigation had taken place in remote times. "
----------
"Wise men, the ancients believed, were a separate race, and to be born into this race it was necessary to
develop the mind to a state of enlightened intelligence. The old philosophers taught that physical birth is an
accident, for men are born into various races and nationalities according to the laws of generation; but there is a
second birth, which is not an accident; it is the consequence of a proper intent. By this second birth man is born
by enlightened intelligence out of nation and out of race into an international nation and an international race.
It is this larger and coming race that will some day inherit the earth. But unless a man be born again by
enlightenment, he shall not be a part of the philosophic empire. "
----------
"In the Compania, not far from Rome, stood the deserted ruins of an ancient city which had been
destroyed by the vandalism of men and the crumbling forces of time; Plotinus asked that this become the site
of a habitation for the learned, that here with funds raised from both public and private sources a noble
community be built, to be ruled over by the laws set forth in the writings of Plato, and to honor the great man
the city should be called Platonopolis.
Plotinus pointed out that such a project would not only bring honor to the wise but would confer
immortality upon the name of the emperor, lasting dignity upon the whole of the Roman Empire. Galienus
came to favor the project as the noblest experiment in time. But the Roman Senate viewed the matter with
suspicion and alarm. To them it would be a serious misfortune for the aristocracy of wealth to be challenged by
the aristocracy of learning!--the philosophers' city might finally overthrow the Empire. Always, philosophers
had been especially troublesome to the smug, and Rome was in the advanced state of smugness that
immediately preceded the complete collapse of the entire Empire."
----------
"We are indebted to these Brothers of the Quest for our sciences, arts, and crafts of today. They were the
discoverers; they were the astronomers, scientists, physicians, mathematicians, and artists whose works we
treasure but whose dreams we have ignored. They gave knowledge to the world to make men happy. We have
used their knowledge to make a few men rich. We have perverted their skill, desecrated their dreams, and
profaned their mysticism. But the knowledge they have given us is available to be used in a nobler way, and
some day we shall awaken to our responsibility with the realization that it is our common duty to restore the
dignity of learning and dedicate unselfishly to the human need."
----------
"To summarize the opinions of Nostradamus concerning the future destiny of Western civilization is
difficult, because of the involved idiom of the original text. But he points out clearly certain things that will
happen. He saw that a great civilization would rise in the western world. This civilization would free itself
from the bonds to its mother country, and then assume a free place among the temporal powers. The new
country would flourish and extend its domain across the entire continent. It would grow rich and powerful, he
predicted, and live at peace with its sister, (Canada). He said that America would have to fight several wars,
including one with the Orient. This conflict he describes as an eagle flying against the rising sun, and in his day
neither the eagle nor the rising sun had significance of the slightest importance in the symbolism of nations.
Fulfilling its destiny, Nostradamus foretold that America would become a great power in a pattern of
world peace and would be looked up to by other nations for leadership against the common evils of the time. In
short, as Nostradamus foretells the story of the Blessed Isles it is precisely according to the Platonic tradition;
and we can not but wonder if he was a party to that tradition, and knew exactly whereof he spoke."
Posted on 4/17/17 at 8:57 am to Darkomantis
Posted on 4/17/17 at 5:51 pm to elleshoo9
You could also listen to this:
Mystery Babylon
It syncs up very well with Randall's work/this thread....
I will be down this and a few other rabbit holes for while...
Mystery Babylon
It syncs up very well with Randall's work/this thread....
I will be down this and a few other rabbit holes for while...
Posted on 4/17/17 at 6:30 pm to Darkomantis
"In the year 1613, Trajano Boccalini, aged seventyseven, was strangled to death in his bed by hired
assassins. At least this is one account. We are informed by another historian that he died of colic. A third
describes his demise as a result of being slugged with sand bags. Anyhow, he died. And it is believed that
Trajano's end was due to a book which he published entitled, Ragguagli di Parnaso, a witty exposition of the
foibles of his time.
The 77th section of this book is titled, "A General Reformation of the World." Like the other Utopians,
Boccalini made use of a fable to point out political evils and their corrections: Apollo, the god of light and
truth, is dismayed by the increasing number of suicides occurring among men. So he appoints a committee
composed of the wisest philosophers of all time to examine into the state of the human race. These men bring a
detailed account and numerous recommendations to Apollo. Nearly every evil of modern government is
included, ranging from protective tariffs to usury in private debt. The final conclusion reached by the
committee is that the human problem is unsolvable except through a long process involving suffering and
disaster. As an immediate remedy the best that could be done was to regulate the price of cabbages--which
seemed to be the only article not defended by an adequate force of public opinion or a large enough lobby in
places of power.
Boccalini's satire is important because it constituted the first published statement of the Society of the
Rosicrucians. It points out that, first, evils must be recognized; then, the public must be educated to assume its
proper responsibility in the correction of these evils; and lastly, public opinion must force the reformation of
the State and curb the ambitions of politicians. This was a solemn pronouncement in the opening years of the
17th Century. It is little wonder that it cost Boccalini his life. "
--------------
"Reasonably accurate accounts of the natural advantages and resources of the Americas were in time
brought back by the explorers and adventurers who had opened the new territories of the West, and only then
did the European nations give serious consideration to actual development of their newly acquired colonial
empires. The French, the Dutch, and the English entered upon programs of establishing permanent settlements
along the Atlantic seaboard. The English program was under the direction of Sir Francis Bacon, and it was his
genius that gave purpose to the enterprise.
Bacon quickly realized that here in the new world was the proper environment for the accomplishment
of his great dream, the establishment of the philosophic empire. It must be remembered that Bacon did not play
a lone hand; he was the head of a secret society including in its membership the most brilliant intellectuals of
his day. All these men were bound together by a common oath to labor in the cause of a world democracy.
Bacon's society of the unknown philosophers included men of high rank and broad influence. Together with
Bacon, they devised the colonization scheme. "
--------------
The history books tell us that the colonists made the long and dangerous journey in small ships in order
to find a place where they could worship God, each according to the dictates of his own conscience. There is
however much more to the story than our historians have dared to suggest.
Among the colonizers were some who belonged to the Order of the Quest, but it was not long before
religious strife broke out in the colonies, for men do not change their natures merely by changing their place of
habitation. Much of the intolerance of the old world came over to plague the beginnings of the new
civilization. It was not easy to preserve high principles in pioneering a country. A lot had to be done before the
philosophic empire could emerge out of the simple struggle for existence. And much has yet to be
accomplished; we are still pioneering in the sphere of right thinking and right living.
Bacon's secret society was set up in America before the middle of the 17th Century. Bacon himself had
given up all hope of bringing his dream to fruition in his own country, and he concentrated his attention upon
rooting it in the new world. He made sure that the American colonists were thoroughly indoctrinated with the
principles of religious tolerance, political democracy, and social equality. Through carefully appointed
representatives, the machinery of democracy was set up at least a hundred years before the period of the
Revolutionary War. "
----------------
assassins. At least this is one account. We are informed by another historian that he died of colic. A third
describes his demise as a result of being slugged with sand bags. Anyhow, he died. And it is believed that
Trajano's end was due to a book which he published entitled, Ragguagli di Parnaso, a witty exposition of the
foibles of his time.
The 77th section of this book is titled, "A General Reformation of the World." Like the other Utopians,
Boccalini made use of a fable to point out political evils and their corrections: Apollo, the god of light and
truth, is dismayed by the increasing number of suicides occurring among men. So he appoints a committee
composed of the wisest philosophers of all time to examine into the state of the human race. These men bring a
detailed account and numerous recommendations to Apollo. Nearly every evil of modern government is
included, ranging from protective tariffs to usury in private debt. The final conclusion reached by the
committee is that the human problem is unsolvable except through a long process involving suffering and
disaster. As an immediate remedy the best that could be done was to regulate the price of cabbages--which
seemed to be the only article not defended by an adequate force of public opinion or a large enough lobby in
places of power.
Boccalini's satire is important because it constituted the first published statement of the Society of the
Rosicrucians. It points out that, first, evils must be recognized; then, the public must be educated to assume its
proper responsibility in the correction of these evils; and lastly, public opinion must force the reformation of
the State and curb the ambitions of politicians. This was a solemn pronouncement in the opening years of the
17th Century. It is little wonder that it cost Boccalini his life. "
--------------
"Reasonably accurate accounts of the natural advantages and resources of the Americas were in time
brought back by the explorers and adventurers who had opened the new territories of the West, and only then
did the European nations give serious consideration to actual development of their newly acquired colonial
empires. The French, the Dutch, and the English entered upon programs of establishing permanent settlements
along the Atlantic seaboard. The English program was under the direction of Sir Francis Bacon, and it was his
genius that gave purpose to the enterprise.
Bacon quickly realized that here in the new world was the proper environment for the accomplishment
of his great dream, the establishment of the philosophic empire. It must be remembered that Bacon did not play
a lone hand; he was the head of a secret society including in its membership the most brilliant intellectuals of
his day. All these men were bound together by a common oath to labor in the cause of a world democracy.
Bacon's society of the unknown philosophers included men of high rank and broad influence. Together with
Bacon, they devised the colonization scheme. "
--------------
The history books tell us that the colonists made the long and dangerous journey in small ships in order
to find a place where they could worship God, each according to the dictates of his own conscience. There is
however much more to the story than our historians have dared to suggest.
Among the colonizers were some who belonged to the Order of the Quest, but it was not long before
religious strife broke out in the colonies, for men do not change their natures merely by changing their place of
habitation. Much of the intolerance of the old world came over to plague the beginnings of the new
civilization. It was not easy to preserve high principles in pioneering a country. A lot had to be done before the
philosophic empire could emerge out of the simple struggle for existence. And much has yet to be
accomplished; we are still pioneering in the sphere of right thinking and right living.
Bacon's secret society was set up in America before the middle of the 17th Century. Bacon himself had
given up all hope of bringing his dream to fruition in his own country, and he concentrated his attention upon
rooting it in the new world. He made sure that the American colonists were thoroughly indoctrinated with the
principles of religious tolerance, political democracy, and social equality. Through carefully appointed
representatives, the machinery of democracy was set up at least a hundred years before the period of the
Revolutionary War. "
----------------
Posted on 4/17/17 at 6:37 pm to Darkomantis
"Bacon's secret society membership was not limited to England; it was most powerful in Germany, in
France, and in the Netherlands, and most of the leaders of European thought were involved in the vast pattern
of his purpose. The mystic empire of the wise had no national boundaries and its citizenry was made up of men
of good purpose in every land. The Alchemists, Cabalists, Mystics, and Rosicrucians were the incisive
instruments of Bacon's plan. Representatives of these groups migrated to the colonies at an early date and set
up their organization in suitable places. "
-----------------
"Nothing is known about the mysterious old man except that he was referred to as the "Professor"; his
name is not preserved. He was beyond seventy years of age but apparently in the prime of his life. He ate no
flesh, fish, nor fowl, or any green things, and drank no liquor, wine, or ale. His diet consisted of cereals, well
ripened fruit, nuts, tea, and such sweets as honey and molasses. He was well educated, highly cultured, of
extensive as well as varied information, and very studious. He spent most of his time pondering over rare
books and ancient manuscripts, which he seemed to be deciphering, translating, or rewriting. These he kept
carefully locked up in a heavy iron-bound chest and never showed them to any person. "
[-]
After a preamble, the Professor made the following extraordinary remarks: "The sun of our political air, like the sun in the heavens, is very low in the horizon--just now approaching the winter solstice, which it will reach very soon. But, as the sun rises from his grave in
Capricorn, mounts toward his resurrection in Aries, and passes onward and upward to his glorious culmination
in Cancer, so will our political sun rise and continue to increase in power, in light, and in glory; and the exalted
sun of summer will not have gained his full strength of heat and power in the starry Lion until our Colonial Sun
will be, in its glorious exaltation, demanding a place in the governmental firmaments alongside of, coordinate
with, and in no wise subordinate to, any other sun of any other nation upon earth."
The Professor went on to point out that the flag which he recommended would be subject to change in
the future as the national destiny increased. This change, however, should not require a complete re-designing
but a process of gradual modification: "To make it announce and represent the new nation which is already
gestating in the womb of time; and which will come to birth--and that not prematurely, but fully developed and
ready for the change into independent life--before the sun in its next summer's strength ripens our next harvest."
The design finally submitted consisted of a field of thirteen alternate red and white stripes, and in the
area which now contains the stars was the British Union Jack. The area containing the Union Jack was the one
suitable for modification. The design was formally and unanimously accepted, and the flag was adopted by
General Washington as the recognized standard of the Colonial Army and Navy. There is no record of any
report being made by this committee to Congress.
---------------
"On January 2, 1776, at Cambridge, in the presence of the Army, General Washington with his own
hands raised the newly made flag on a tall and specially prepared pine tree liberty pole. The British army at
Charleston Heights could see the flag clearly. After inspecting it with their field glasses, the British officers
ordered a salute of thirteen cheers, followed by a regular official salute of thirteen guns in honor of the new
standard. It appears therefore, that the Colonial Flag was as pleasing to the British as it was to the Colonies. "
France, and in the Netherlands, and most of the leaders of European thought were involved in the vast pattern
of his purpose. The mystic empire of the wise had no national boundaries and its citizenry was made up of men
of good purpose in every land. The Alchemists, Cabalists, Mystics, and Rosicrucians were the incisive
instruments of Bacon's plan. Representatives of these groups migrated to the colonies at an early date and set
up their organization in suitable places. "
-----------------
"Nothing is known about the mysterious old man except that he was referred to as the "Professor"; his
name is not preserved. He was beyond seventy years of age but apparently in the prime of his life. He ate no
flesh, fish, nor fowl, or any green things, and drank no liquor, wine, or ale. His diet consisted of cereals, well
ripened fruit, nuts, tea, and such sweets as honey and molasses. He was well educated, highly cultured, of
extensive as well as varied information, and very studious. He spent most of his time pondering over rare
books and ancient manuscripts, which he seemed to be deciphering, translating, or rewriting. These he kept
carefully locked up in a heavy iron-bound chest and never showed them to any person. "
[-]
After a preamble, the Professor made the following extraordinary remarks: "The sun of our political air, like the sun in the heavens, is very low in the horizon--just now approaching the winter solstice, which it will reach very soon. But, as the sun rises from his grave in
Capricorn, mounts toward his resurrection in Aries, and passes onward and upward to his glorious culmination
in Cancer, so will our political sun rise and continue to increase in power, in light, and in glory; and the exalted
sun of summer will not have gained his full strength of heat and power in the starry Lion until our Colonial Sun
will be, in its glorious exaltation, demanding a place in the governmental firmaments alongside of, coordinate
with, and in no wise subordinate to, any other sun of any other nation upon earth."
The Professor went on to point out that the flag which he recommended would be subject to change in
the future as the national destiny increased. This change, however, should not require a complete re-designing
but a process of gradual modification: "To make it announce and represent the new nation which is already
gestating in the womb of time; and which will come to birth--and that not prematurely, but fully developed and
ready for the change into independent life--before the sun in its next summer's strength ripens our next harvest."
The design finally submitted consisted of a field of thirteen alternate red and white stripes, and in the
area which now contains the stars was the British Union Jack. The area containing the Union Jack was the one
suitable for modification. The design was formally and unanimously accepted, and the flag was adopted by
General Washington as the recognized standard of the Colonial Army and Navy. There is no record of any
report being made by this committee to Congress.
---------------
"On January 2, 1776, at Cambridge, in the presence of the Army, General Washington with his own
hands raised the newly made flag on a tall and specially prepared pine tree liberty pole. The British army at
Charleston Heights could see the flag clearly. After inspecting it with their field glasses, the British officers
ordered a salute of thirteen cheers, followed by a regular official salute of thirteen guns in honor of the new
standard. It appears therefore, that the Colonial Flag was as pleasing to the British as it was to the Colonies. "
Posted on 4/17/17 at 6:57 pm to Darkomantis
Dark,
Is this all from "The Secret Destiny of America"? I am going to get into it soon, but I am reading a few different things concurrently. It is on my short list.
In Hall's "The Secret Teachings of All Ages", he goes into the origins of the cult's of Apollo, Dionysus, and Bacchus. This syncs up well with the LaRouche PDF which emphasizes these as ancient conspirators
I am watching / listening to Mystery Babylon currently (holy shite). Lots of confluences of synthesized data/info.
---
Cooper in "Mystery Babylon" has much to say about 13...
4 groups of 3 surrounding the Sun
Is this all from "The Secret Destiny of America"? I am going to get into it soon, but I am reading a few different things concurrently. It is on my short list.
In Hall's "The Secret Teachings of All Ages", he goes into the origins of the cult's of Apollo, Dionysus, and Bacchus. This syncs up well with the LaRouche PDF which emphasizes these as ancient conspirators
I am watching / listening to Mystery Babylon currently (holy shite). Lots of confluences of synthesized data/info.
---
quote:
The design finally submitted consisted of a field of thirteen alternate red and white stripes, and in the
area which now contains the stars was the British Union Jack. The area containing the Union Jack was the one
suitable for modification. The design was formally and unanimously accepted, and the flag was adopted by
General Washington as the recognized standard of the Colonial Army and Navy. There is no record of any
report being made by this committee to Congress.
---------------
"On January 2, 1776, at Cambridge, in the presence of the Army, General Washington with his own
hands raised the newly made flag on a tall and specially prepared pine tree liberty pole. The British army at
Charleston Heights could see the flag clearly. After inspecting it with their field glasses, the British officers
ordered a salute of thirteen cheers, followed by a regular official salute of thirteen guns in honor of the new
standard. It appears therefore, that the Colonial Flag was as pleasing to the British as it was to the Colonies. "
Cooper in "Mystery Babylon" has much to say about 13...
quote:
After a preamble, the Professor made the following extraordinary remarks: "The sun of our political air, like the sun in the heavens, is very low in the horizon--just now approaching the winter solstice, which it will reach very soon. But, as the sun rises from his grave in
Capricorn, mounts toward his resurrection in Aries, and passes onward and upward to his glorious culmination
in Cancer, so will our political sun rise and continue to increase in power, in light, and in glory; and the exalted
sun of summer will not have gained his full strength of heat and power in the starry Lion until our Colonial Sun
will be, in its glorious exaltation, demanding a place in the governmental firmaments alongside of, coordinate
with, and in no wise subordinate to, any other sun of any other nation upon earth."
4 groups of 3 surrounding the Sun
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 4/17/17 at 10:01 pm to Darkomantis
"[A.P. Warrington] made particular mention of a speech by an unknown man at the time of the signing of the
Declaration of Independence. The particular book was not available at that moment, but Mr. Warrington
offered to send me a copy of the speech, and he did; but unfortunately neglected to append the title or the date
of the book. He went to India subsequently, and died at the Theosophical headquarters at Adyar, in Madras.
Then, in May, 1938, the speech appeared in The Theosophist, official organ of the society published in Adyar.
In all probability the original book is now in the library of the Theosophical society. There is no reason to
doubt the accuracy and authenticity of Mr. Warrington's copy, but I am undertaking such investigation as is
possible to discover the source of the speech."
------
According to Jefferson, it was late in the afternoon before the delegates gathered their courage to the
sticking point. The talk was about axes, scaffolds, and the gibbet, when suddenly a strong, bold voice sounded
-- "Gibbet ! They may stretch our necks on all the gibbets in the land; they may turn every rock into a
scaffold; every tree into a gallows; every home into a grave, and yet the words of that parchment can never die
! They may pour our blood on a thousand scaffolds, and yet from every drop that dyes the axe a new champion
of freedom will spring into birth ! The British King may blot out the stars of God from the sky, but he cannot
blot out His words written on that parchment there. The works of God may perish: His words never !
"The words of this declaration will live in the world long after our bones are dust. To the mechanic in
his workshop they will speak hope: to the slave in the mines freedom: but to the coward kings, these words
will speak in tones of warning they cannot choose but hear...
"Sign that parchment ! Sign, if the next moment the gibbet's rope is about your neck ! Sign, if the next
minute this hall rings with the clash of falling axes ! Sign, by all your hopes in life or death, as men, as
husbands, as fathers, brothers, sign your names to the parchment, or be accursed forever ! Sign, and not only
for yourselves, but for all ages, for that parchment will be the textbook of freedom, the bible of the rights of
man forever.
"Nay, do not start and whisper with surprise ! It is truth, your own hearts witness it: God proclaims it.
Look at this strange band of exiles and outcasts, suddenly transformed into a people; a handful of men, weak in
arms, but mighty in God-like faith; nay, look at your recent achievements, your Bunker Hill, your Lexington,
and then tell me, if you can, that God has not given America to be free !
"It is not given to our poor human intellect to climb to the skies, and to pierce the Council of the
Almighty One. But methinks I stand among the awful clouds which veil the brightness of Jehovah's throne.
"Methinks I see the recording Angel come trembling up to that throne and speak his dread message.
'Father, the old world is baptized in blood. Father, look with one glance of Thine eternal eye, and behold
evermore that terrible sight, man trodden beneath the oppressor's feet, nations lost in blood, murder, and
superstition, walking hand in hand over the graves of the victims, and not a single voice of hope to man !'
"He stands there, the Angel, trembling with the record of human guilt. But hark! The voice of God
speaks from out the awful cloud: ‘Let there be light again ! Tell my people, the poor and oppressed, to go out
from the old world, from oppression and blood, and build My altar in the new.'
"As I live, my friends, I believe that to be His voice ! Yes, were my soul trembling on the verge of
eternity, were this hand freezing in death, were this voice choking in the last struggle, I would still, with the last
impulse of that soul, with the last wave of that hand, with the last gasp of that voice, implore you to remember
this truth--God has given America to be free !
"Yes, as I sank into the gloomy shadows of the grave, with my last faint whisper I would beg you to
sign that parchment for the sake of those millions whose very breath is now hushed in intense expectation as
they look up to you for the awful words: ‘You are free.' "
-----
"Who was this strange man, who seemed to speak with a divine authority, whose solemn words gave
courage to the doubters and sealed the destiny of the new nation ?
Unfortunately, no one knows.
His name is not recorded; none of those present knew him; or if they did, not one acknowledged the
acquaintance.
How he had entered into the locked and guarded room is not told, nor is there any record of the manner
of his departure.
No one claimed to have seen him before, and there is no mention of him after this single episode. Only
his imperishable speech bears witness to his presence
Declaration of Independence. The particular book was not available at that moment, but Mr. Warrington
offered to send me a copy of the speech, and he did; but unfortunately neglected to append the title or the date
of the book. He went to India subsequently, and died at the Theosophical headquarters at Adyar, in Madras.
Then, in May, 1938, the speech appeared in The Theosophist, official organ of the society published in Adyar.
In all probability the original book is now in the library of the Theosophical society. There is no reason to
doubt the accuracy and authenticity of Mr. Warrington's copy, but I am undertaking such investigation as is
possible to discover the source of the speech."
------
According to Jefferson, it was late in the afternoon before the delegates gathered their courage to the
sticking point. The talk was about axes, scaffolds, and the gibbet, when suddenly a strong, bold voice sounded
-- "Gibbet ! They may stretch our necks on all the gibbets in the land; they may turn every rock into a
scaffold; every tree into a gallows; every home into a grave, and yet the words of that parchment can never die
! They may pour our blood on a thousand scaffolds, and yet from every drop that dyes the axe a new champion
of freedom will spring into birth ! The British King may blot out the stars of God from the sky, but he cannot
blot out His words written on that parchment there. The works of God may perish: His words never !
"The words of this declaration will live in the world long after our bones are dust. To the mechanic in
his workshop they will speak hope: to the slave in the mines freedom: but to the coward kings, these words
will speak in tones of warning they cannot choose but hear...
"Sign that parchment ! Sign, if the next moment the gibbet's rope is about your neck ! Sign, if the next
minute this hall rings with the clash of falling axes ! Sign, by all your hopes in life or death, as men, as
husbands, as fathers, brothers, sign your names to the parchment, or be accursed forever ! Sign, and not only
for yourselves, but for all ages, for that parchment will be the textbook of freedom, the bible of the rights of
man forever.
"Nay, do not start and whisper with surprise ! It is truth, your own hearts witness it: God proclaims it.
Look at this strange band of exiles and outcasts, suddenly transformed into a people; a handful of men, weak in
arms, but mighty in God-like faith; nay, look at your recent achievements, your Bunker Hill, your Lexington,
and then tell me, if you can, that God has not given America to be free !
"It is not given to our poor human intellect to climb to the skies, and to pierce the Council of the
Almighty One. But methinks I stand among the awful clouds which veil the brightness of Jehovah's throne.
"Methinks I see the recording Angel come trembling up to that throne and speak his dread message.
'Father, the old world is baptized in blood. Father, look with one glance of Thine eternal eye, and behold
evermore that terrible sight, man trodden beneath the oppressor's feet, nations lost in blood, murder, and
superstition, walking hand in hand over the graves of the victims, and not a single voice of hope to man !'
"He stands there, the Angel, trembling with the record of human guilt. But hark! The voice of God
speaks from out the awful cloud: ‘Let there be light again ! Tell my people, the poor and oppressed, to go out
from the old world, from oppression and blood, and build My altar in the new.'
"As I live, my friends, I believe that to be His voice ! Yes, were my soul trembling on the verge of
eternity, were this hand freezing in death, were this voice choking in the last struggle, I would still, with the last
impulse of that soul, with the last wave of that hand, with the last gasp of that voice, implore you to remember
this truth--God has given America to be free !
"Yes, as I sank into the gloomy shadows of the grave, with my last faint whisper I would beg you to
sign that parchment for the sake of those millions whose very breath is now hushed in intense expectation as
they look up to you for the awful words: ‘You are free.' "
-----
"Who was this strange man, who seemed to speak with a divine authority, whose solemn words gave
courage to the doubters and sealed the destiny of the new nation ?
Unfortunately, no one knows.
His name is not recorded; none of those present knew him; or if they did, not one acknowledged the
acquaintance.
How he had entered into the locked and guarded room is not told, nor is there any record of the manner
of his departure.
No one claimed to have seen him before, and there is no mention of him after this single episode. Only
his imperishable speech bears witness to his presence
Posted on 4/17/17 at 10:06 pm to Darkomantis
"Some time ago, an eastern publisher suggested to me that an interesting and important title for a book
would be, "The History of Unknown Men." This publisher was a great reader of history; and it was his
observation that nearly all great causes are furthered by mysterious and obscure persons who receive little or no
credit for the part which they have played.
To write the history of these men would be to write the history of the Order of the Quest, the story of the
unknown philosophers. Some, like Francis Bacon, come to high estate; but most of the unknowns work
obscurely through other men, who gain the credit and the fame.
In an old book of rules used by the brothers of the secret orders, is the following: "Our brothers shall
wear the dress and practice the customs of those nations to which they travel so that they shall not be
conspicuous or convey any appearance that is different or unusual. Under no condition shall they reveal their
true identity, or the work which they have come to accomplish; but shall accomplish all things secretly and
without violating the laws or statutes of the countries in which they work."
Of those who did not ‘reveal their true identity', or the work which they came to accomplish, one is the
mysterious Professor who inspired the design of our flag, and remains unknown and unnamed. And similarly,
another is the unknown speaker whose words removed indecision about signing the Declaration of
Independence; it is not known who he was, and the incident is preserved only in a rare old book, the very
existence of which it is difficult to prove."
-------------------------
-------------------------
Reference to Three here
would be, "The History of Unknown Men." This publisher was a great reader of history; and it was his
observation that nearly all great causes are furthered by mysterious and obscure persons who receive little or no
credit for the part which they have played.
To write the history of these men would be to write the history of the Order of the Quest, the story of the
unknown philosophers. Some, like Francis Bacon, come to high estate; but most of the unknowns work
obscurely through other men, who gain the credit and the fame.
In an old book of rules used by the brothers of the secret orders, is the following: "Our brothers shall
wear the dress and practice the customs of those nations to which they travel so that they shall not be
conspicuous or convey any appearance that is different or unusual. Under no condition shall they reveal their
true identity, or the work which they have come to accomplish; but shall accomplish all things secretly and
without violating the laws or statutes of the countries in which they work."
Of those who did not ‘reveal their true identity', or the work which they came to accomplish, one is the
mysterious Professor who inspired the design of our flag, and remains unknown and unnamed. And similarly,
another is the unknown speaker whose words removed indecision about signing the Declaration of
Independence; it is not known who he was, and the incident is preserved only in a rare old book, the very
existence of which it is difficult to prove."
-------------------------
-------------------------
Reference to Three here
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:18 pm to ThinePreparedAni
This is a transcript of that Mystery Babylon series that I've been reading part-time. I find it that I understand things better if I read. I'm listening to the Rosicrucian video, but I'm not really connecting with the content. I think reading a transcript would help me.
LINK
I'm also reading the Gospel of Thomas, and I'll try to summarize later
LINK
I'm also reading the Gospel of Thomas, and I'll try to summarize later
Posted on 4/18/17 at 8:24 pm to elleshoo9
quote:
This is a transcript of that Mystery Babylon series that I've been reading part-time.
Thanks for the link, I might check it out after I'm done with Magicians of the Gods..
I wish the Gulf would pick back up, so I can get back offshore, where I'd have the time to read like I'd like. My list is long and I only get 15-20 mins a night before bed.
If anybody has any request, I'm pretty sure I can get my hands on just about any EPUB
... or convert any PDF to EPUB ETA: I converted that PDF to an EPUB.. I can upload and share a copy tomorrow/later today.
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 2:25 am
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:13 pm to Boudin
.EPUB of Mystery Babylon series
I think you'll like my copy if you're reading on a device.
Thanks again bud, I started it and I think I'll be putting Graham Hancock aside for now
I think you'll like my copy if you're reading on a device.
Thanks again bud, I started it and I think I'll be putting Graham Hancock aside for now
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 1:10 am
Posted on 4/22/17 at 1:28 pm to Boudin
Paging Thine!!
Ancient stone carvings confirm how comet struck Earth in 10,950BC, sparking the rise of civilisations
Which makes me think the reason they buried it was to preserve the site for future discovery.
Ancient stone carvings confirm how comet struck Earth in 10,950BC, sparking the rise of civilisations
quote:
However, when engineers studied animal carvings made on a pillar – known as the vulture stone – at Gobekli Tepe they discovered that the creatures were actually astronomical symbols which represented constellations and the comet.
The idea had been originally put forward by author Graham Hancock in his book Magicians of the Gods.
quote:
Using a computer programme to show where the constellations would have appeared above Turkey thousands of years ago, they were able to pinpoint the comet strike to 10,950BC, the exact time the Younger Dryas begins according to ice core data from Greenland.
quote:
Researchers believe the images were intended as a record of the cataclysmic event, and that a further carving showing a headless man may indicate human disaster and extensive loss of life
Which makes me think the reason they buried it was to preserve the site for future discovery.
This post was edited on 4/22/17 at 1:35 pm
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