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re: Hospitals are overwhelmed!
Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:05 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:05 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Do you really believe that 3 weeks of social distancing made the difference between 2 million deaths and 60,000?
Do you also believe in the tooth fairy?
Do you also believe in the tooth fairy?
This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 5:07 pm
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Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:06 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:90%?!
Why is that an impossibility?
Oh come on.
The CDC “best case scenario” estimate is 20-30%.
This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:06 pm to Scruffy
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The reduction in estimated deaths was beyond the scope of what any social distancing could have performed.
Did social distancing help? Absolutely.
This.
The problem is WaWaWeeWa was so far into the group on here predicting 2 million deaths that now he has to credit the draconian measures as saving those millions of lives to save face and personal pride.
No one is arguing social distancing didn't help. It would work for Influenza too. We are arguing that we went too far based on faulty data and the long term effects will be worse than the virus. At least that is where I stand and have since day one.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:07 pm to stout
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My post was sarcasm with the gunshot wound but Dr Brix has said that anyone who dies with COVID, no matter what else may be wrong, is counted as a COVID death.
Ok? So
Are you as critical about how flu deaths are calculated?
What if we calculated COVID deaths like we calculate flu deaths. With a mathematical model based on overall numbers of unrelated pneumonia deaths and other accidents. You would really be throwing a fit then.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:07 pm to Scruffy
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The numbers you were sold were so far out of whack that we never should have taken them seriously.
Sort of like the,” we will all die in 9 years if we don’t pass the Green New Deal” spouted by environmentalists.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:08 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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Also, not sure if the comparison is against an average daily rate or specific to this time of the year. We're exiting out of flu season.
March and April historically are actually the worse months for flu deaths IIRC.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:09 pm to stout
We were never ever ever ever going to see 2 million deaths from this flu! Ever!
But we still decided to intentionally crash our own economy.
But we still decided to intentionally crash our own economy.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:10 pm to stout
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The problem is WaWaWeeWa was so far into the group on here predicting 2 million deaths
Link?
Those predictions were based on doing nothing
Again, how many times does this have to be said? Staying at home prevented that scenario, now you think it supports your original claim of “it’s just the flu”?
Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:10 pm to Dr Rosenrosen
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Do you really believe that 3 weeks of social distancing made the difference between 2 million deaths and 60,000?
He does because if you saw his earlier post he was all in on 2 million deaths. He has to credit social distancing not to look like a fool.
It couldn't be that the models were bad or anything.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:10 pm to stout
My hospitals are vacant. Once they reopen then the Coronavirus begins
Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:11 pm to stout
I don't think that's correct. Typically the flu is at its worst during the coldest months. That's also when holiday travel is ongoing which further spreads the virus.
Actually, i'm almost positive based on our sales cycles.
Actually, i'm almost positive based on our sales cycles.
This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:11 pm to Dr Rosenrosen
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We were never ever ever ever going to see 2 million deaths from this flu! Ever!
You know that how?
Because you have a feeling?
Because it’s never happened before?
Maybe we can show that’s true with antibody studies but you have no current evidence to support that.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:12 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Are you as critical about how flu deaths are calculated?
A lot of Flu deaths are calculated as pneumonia being the primary cause. We are not doing that with COVID. Why?
Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:12 pm to stout
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He does because if you saw his earlier post he was all in on 2 million deaths. He has to credit social distancing not to look like a fool.
It couldn't be that the models were bad or anything.
I think you and Wawawee need to meet in the middle. That's probably the best answer.
Faulty models and extreme social distancing = lower numbers.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:13 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Would they be overwhelmed if we continued life as if the virus didn’t exist?
They appear to be vastly underwhelmed right now. Let’s reopen nonessential businesses and let the hospitals get whelmed.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:13 pm to WaWaWeeWa
You are very gullible, sir.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:13 pm to stout
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He does because if you saw his earlier post he was all in on 2 million deaths. He has to credit social distancing not to look like a fool.
Link? I’m waiting
Let me ask you this, what percentage of the population do you think has been infected by the virus? Is there reason to believe it will just stop infecting people when we lift the lockdowns?
Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:13 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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I don't think that's correct.
I really should bookmark stuff more. It was an article shared here. Maybe its Feb and March but it was surprising that when things start to warm a little is when flu deaths reach their peak.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:15 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Would they be overwhelmed if we continued life as if the virus didn’t exist?
You post reminds me of a clint eastwood quote, "Dyin' ain't much of a livin'"
Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:15 pm to stout
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A lot of Flu deaths are calculated as pneumonia being the primary cause. We are not doing that with COVID. Why?
Wait, what? You get pneumonia because of the Flu ... you don't get the Flu because of pneumonia.
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