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re: If Abortion isn't murder then why do people get charged with murder/manslaughter when they
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:12 pm to antibarner
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:12 pm to antibarner
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I have used this argument for ages.
It’s a really bad one.
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Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:13 pm to Indefatigable
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quote:I have used this argument for ages.
It’s a really bad one.
Go ahead and tell him why, your chance to be a person of enlightenment.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:14 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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They shouldn't be. Next question.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:16 pm to RebelExpress38
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Make it make sense.
Ok. The people of whatever state your hypo takes place in, via their elected representatives, made it so that abortion isn’t murder. That is why it’s not murder. Murder is what the law of whatever jurisdiction says it is.
It really is that simple.
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:17 pm to Bass Tiger
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Go ahead and tell him why, your chance to be a person of enlightenment.
Mainly because, as others have said, there is the blatant distinction between the mother choosing to abort the child, and someone else killing it without her consent or along with her.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:18 pm to Bass Tiger
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them.....killing children at birth is next level insanity
Where is this legal?
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:18 pm to RebelExpress38
Yes, I've seen that meme. You really think you have something there, don't you?
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:22 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Yes, I've seen that meme. You really think you have something there, don't you?
Can you detail the arguments that were used to justify slavery that are substantively different than the arguments used to justify abortion of a 2nd or 3rd trimester unborn human being?
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:22 pm to Indefatigable
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Mainly because, as others have said, there is the blatant distinction between the mother choosing to abort the child, and someone else killing it without her consent or along with her.
So the woman decides whether the child lives or dies, which means the child only has worth or legal standing if the woman decides that is the case. Some crazy shite I tell ya.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:23 pm to Bass Tiger
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So the woman decides whether the child lives or dies, which means the child only has worth or legal standing if the woman decides that is the case.
Correct. That is the policy of many places.
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Some crazy shite I tell ya.
I disagree with that policy as much as you do. I just don’t see the merit in feigning confusion on how it’s reconciled by those who support it.
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:25 pm to wackatimesthree
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Can you detail the arguments that were used to justify slavery that are substantively different than the arguments used to justify abortion of a 2nd or 3rd trimester unborn human being?
Yeah, reframing the discussion to suit your points won't help you.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:25 pm to Indefatigable
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quote:So the woman decides whether the child lives or dies, which means the child only has worth or legal standing if the woman decides that is the case. Correct. That is the policy of many places. quote:Some crazy shite I tell ya
. I disagree with that policy as much as you do. I just don’t feign confusion on how it’s reconciled by those who support it.
That's fine, then men who want the child aborted shouldn't be legally required to provide for those children.....this has to at least make sense,
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:26 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Yeah, reframing the discussion to suit your points won't help you.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:29 pm to wackatimesthree
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Yeah, that's what I thought.
Really? And you did it anyway?
This is why you lose. Repeatedly.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:29 pm to L1C4
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you are assuming they will grow up to be criminals?
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you are assuming they will grow up to be criminals?
Unfortunately going by history, that's how it goes. A disproportionate amount of children born in a timeframe of having unwanted children and not having them will always end in this result.
You can say what you will on a different level, but that's that.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:32 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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You really think you have something there, don't you?
I know I do actually, because it is the same. Dems in the 1850s are the same as Dems today.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:32 pm to Bass Tiger
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then men who want the child aborted shouldn't be legally required to provide for those children.....this has to at least make sense,
If only “making sense” were the standard.
Unfortunately, no jurisdiction in the United States has made the decision to give fathers equal rights as mothers when it comes to unborn children.
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:34 pm to Tiger BTT
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Is it no longer murder because mommy had an appointment to murder the baby the next day ?
No. The dead inside of a human being would use it as a way to make herself not look like a trash can.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:41 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Really? And you did it anyway?
Yep.
I love you making you look like an idiot. I wasn't going to pass that up.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 5:43 pm to RebelExpress38
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I know I do actually, because it is the same.
Well, no.
No, it isn't.
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