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Alabama Governors

Alabama Governors - First Republican governor voted in since 1872 was.....1987. And Alabama ran Wallace, a democrat, against Johnson, a democrat.

Mississippi Governors

Mississippi - First Republican Governor voted in since 1874 was.....1992

Georgia Governors

Georgia Governors - First Republican Governor voted in since 1871 was.....2003

Louisiana Governors

Louisiana Governors - First Republican Governor voted in since 1877 was.....1980 :lol:

So this conclusively disproves your hypothesis. If the party switched in 1964, they still voted democrat well into the 90s. That doesn't make much sense, does it?

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Posted by WaltWhite504

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Posted on 8/28/24 at 11:10 am to BugAC

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If the party switched in 1964, they still voted democrat well into the 90s. That doesn't make much sense, does it?

The party was factioned - south and north fighting for control. The shift in 64 was the beginning of the change that would dissolve through the 80s.

Wallace was really an independent running on the democratic ticket. His presidential campaign in 1968 was as an independent who opposed Nixon's liberal position on integration. Wallace's 1976 election was opposed by Jimmy Carter who openly called Wallace a racist and opposed his democratic identity. Once Reagan returned the Goldwater neo-conservative identity to republicans, the racists solidified their allegiance in the 80s.

But if you want to track the pollical shift using the political identity of governor elections, i give you exhibit A.... or do you now concede that anyone can just declare a political affiliation without having the national endorsement?

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Posted on 8/28/24 at 11:53 am to WaltWhite504

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The shift in 64

There was no shift. I think i've proved that.

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Wallace was really an independent running on the democratic ticket.

Career democrat was an independent. ok.

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But if you want to track the pollical shift using the political identity of governor elections, i give you exhibit A

Oh please use Duke

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Duke unsuccessfully ran as a Democratic candidate for state legislature during the 1970s and 1980s, culminating in his campaign for the 1988 Democratic presidential nomination. After failing to gain any traction within the Democratic Party, he gained the presidential nomination of the minor Populist Party. In December 1988, he became a Republican and claimed to have become a born-again Christian, nominally renouncing antisemitism and racism.

Again, this so-called shift in 64 must have been delayed until the 90s.

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or do you now concede that anyone can just declare a political affiliation without having the national endorsement?

Robert Byrd, Al Gore, William Fulbright - 3 examples of hardcore racist democrats who never renounced their party for the Republicans vs. 1 (Thurmond) who switched.

Again, we have decades of Democrat governors going from the late 1800s only switching to Republican during the Reagan years, not 1964. The switch is a myth propagated by democrats so their racist roots are ignored. You have no proof other than what, the Goldwater/Johnson election? Even that is an indictment on the Democrats considering Johnson's remarks regarding the signing of the civil rights act.

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Posted by WaltWhite504

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Posted on 8/28/24 at 12:27 pm to BugAC

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The switch is a myth propagated by democrats

This discussion is a joke. It is pretty clear who the southern racists love and who they are supporting.

The question is 'how can the black population support democrats?"

Th answer is 1) Democrats endorse an overwhelming majority of black politicians and 2) republicans embrace white supremists

Its pretty f'cking simple. Were Democrats more racist in the 1960s - hell yes, but they have evolved. And when they eventually purged the confederates from the party, the republicans welcomed them with open arms -- that is a fact.

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St. George

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Posted on 8/28/24 at 12:51 pm to WaltWhite504

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This discussion is a joke. It is pretty clear who the southern racists love and who they are supporting.

Ah, so you can't argue the facts presented, you now are just resorted to calling everyone a racist. You're pathetic.

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The question is 'how can the black population support democrats?"

That's not the question i asked. The question i'm asking is why are you buying into the lies fed to you about the so-called "switch". Plenty i've posted you've not explained that completely contradicts the hill you are dying on.

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Were Democrats more racist in the 1960s - hell yes, but they have evolved.

No they haven't. These are the same people that state, "black kids can be just as smart as rich kids". THe same party that attacks any black man that doesn't vote Democrat. The same party who's entire platform is maintained by people of color being on government assistance.

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And when they eventually purged the confederates from the party, the republicans welcomed them with open arms -- that is a fact.

It is a lie that i've disproven and you've not argued otherwise. Go ahead. Take the facts i presented and give a reasonable argument with facts that proves me wrong. I'll wait.

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