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re: I’ll vote whatever republican
Posted on 9/29/22 at 1:27 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
Posted on 9/29/22 at 1:27 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
You can, of course, point to things that the GOP has failed on, but elections provide a choice, not a fantasy. Obamacare would not exist if the GOP had been in control. The GOP may spend far too much but we KNOW from recent legislation and (thankfully) failed attempts at litigation that Democrats would spend even more. The border may not have been secure under GOP rule but it was nothing like the free for all crisis we have now under Biden. Choosing the best available option does not make you “complicit.” It makes you a grownup.
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Posted on 9/29/22 at 1:31 pm to Aubie Spr96
What if I told you that you have Trump flu. You sound dumb.
This post was edited on 9/29/22 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 9/29/22 at 1:33 pm to troyt37
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Did either party put a stop to the totalitarian COVID policies?
Are you really saying there was no difference between the parties regarding COVID policies? Keeping in mind that the feds were controlled by a Dem Senate, House, and POTUS. Did you NOT notice the difference between Dem and Republican controlled states? Or even Dem vs. Republican counties and cities?
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Did either party do anything about states violating their own election laws?
Are you in a news blackout area? Yes, there were attempts in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nevada, Georgia and Arizona (and more) by Republicans to investigate the election shenanigans and they were blocked time and again by Dem legislatures, Dem election officials, and Dem judges, as well as some turncoat Rhinos.
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Has either party sought to abolish all federal gun laws as infringements forbidden in the constitution?
Well that’s a pretty high bar; ALL gun laws? I’m pretty sure there wasn’t a push to revoke the law preventing violent felons from obtaining or possession firearms. However, the Republicans surely attempted to block (and in some cases, did block) restrictive gun laws passed/proposed by the DEM CONTROLLED CONGRESS.
I also saw that conservative Supreme Court Justices, APPOINTED BY REPUBLICANS, threw out the handgun ban in New York.
quote:I feel like I’m taking crazy pills! Didn’t Trump push for funding of the border wall, and when blocked by the minority party, found creative ways to find a good portion of it from other funds? Didn’t DeSantis and Abbot just create a media storm by demonstrating the hypocrisy of the Dem Party immigration disaster?
Has either party upheld the constitutional mandate to defend our borders and protect us from invasion?
quote:In this case, it’s the libertarian leaning Republicans who join with the Dems to block FEDERAL REGULATION on tech companies, up until the Dems took control of both houses. But more and more MAGA Republicans are prepared to reign in Big Tech violations of free speech.
Has either party done a damn thing about businesses violating First Amendment rights of Americans?
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I can keep going, but the days of supporting a candidate because of the R behind their name are long gone for me.
Well I agree with you in general, but remember that we don’t get to pick the best candidate for the office. We ONLY get to vote for one of a pair or a small group of candidates. We are often stuck with the Big Douche vs. Turd Sandwich choice.
The system is far from perfect, but electing a Dem, or not voting for the Turd Sandwich Rep, and thus allowing the Dem to get elected means that the Dem Party platform is going to be enacted, even if your particular state’s Dem “doesn’t seem as bad as the others”.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 1:33 pm to BigMob
I’d vote for Taliban over Democrat
Posted on 9/29/22 at 1:40 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
Maybe. Maybe it makes you a grownup that accepts getting stabbed in the back on a regular basis. A grownup that accepts the fact that there are two different justice systems, and that you actually do not have the rights guaranteed by the Constitution, if the government says no. A grownup who prefers peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom. A grownup that would rather force their children to bleed, fight and die for freedom and liberty if they are ever to have either. If that’s what makes one a grownup, I’m glad to say I no longer am one.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 1:45 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
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ou can, of course, point to things that the GOP has failed on, but elections provide a choice, not a fantasy. Obamacare would not exist if the GOP had been in control. The GOP may spend far too much but we KNOW from recent legislation and (thankfully) failed attempts at litigation that Democrats would spend even more.
Do we know this?
I don't think that we do
The fiscal cost of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars has been tremendous. Medicare part D was part of Bush doctrine. The bailouts and stimulus packages of the Obama years were essentially a rubber stamp on Bush era policies
Trump wasn't exactly a frugal spender during his time and he passed massive COVID relief legislation. Part of the reason the economy was doing so well under Trump was a lot of the deficit spending was juicing the economy. Conservatives don't want to hear that or admit it, but it's the truth.
If anything Biden is spending in a way similar to what you would expect from Trump. He's a dunce in other ways but not much has changed from a spending perspective.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 1:49 pm to fareplay
Voting does not matter anymore. They’re gonna tank the market to bring in a digital system of total control. Anyone thinking you can vote your way out of the kind of tyranny we’re living under is delusional
Posted on 9/29/22 at 2:00 pm to Jimbeaux
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Did you NOT notice the difference between Dem and Republican controlled states? Or even Dem vs. Republican counties and cities?
I live in Arkansas, with Asa Cuckinson as governor. No, not a damn bit of difference. The elderly died alone in nursing homes across the state, and we got daily press conferences from King Asa on what was acceptable or not, and how he decided to run the state that day.
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Are you in a news blackout area? Yes, there were attempts in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nevada, Georgia and Arizona (and more) by Republicans to investigate the election shenanigans and they were blocked time and again by Dem legislatures, Dem election officials, and Dem judges, as well as some turncoat Rhinos.
You mean after it was too late to do a damn thing about the results of an election Stevie Wonder could see was fraudulent and corrupt? Yeah, it was pretty easy for the marxists to tell us to pound sand at that point, wasn’t it?
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Well that’s a pretty high bar; ALL gun laws?
No it isn’t. It’s nothing more than what the Constitution clearly mandates.
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I feel like I’m taking crazy pills! Didn’t Trump push for funding of the border wall, and when blocked by the minority party, found creative ways to find a good portion of it from other funds? Didn’t DeSantis and Abbot just create a media storm by demonstrating the hypocrisy of the Dem Party immigration disaster?
Absolutely nothing could be done by the minority party to stop a bill funding the border wall in the house. What bill did the house pass? And yes, just as I said, Trump accomplished conservative policy by fiat, but it couldn’t be done completely without the support of the spineless shitbags in his own party.
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The system is far from perfect, but electing a Dem, or not voting for the Turd Sandwich Rep, and thus allowing the Dem to get elected means that the Dem Party platform is going to be enacted, even if your particular state’s Dem “doesn’t seem as bad as the others”.
Or we can let the marxists in both parties burn this bitch down, and fight the revolution so our children and grandchildren don’t have to.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 2:08 pm to Powerman
"If anything Biden is spending in a way similar to what you would expect from Trump. He's a dunce in other ways but not much has changed from a spending perspective."
First, I assume you're only contesting the part about spending, right? And I will agree this one is a closer call because Republicans have gone on some awful spending sprees, too. But just this year, you had the Democrats attempting to spend MUCH more than we currently are, thwarted only by 100& GOP opposition and Joe Manchin. I believe that alone justifies my statement that we know Democrats would spend more. They were explicit in their attempt to do so.
First, I assume you're only contesting the part about spending, right? And I will agree this one is a closer call because Republicans have gone on some awful spending sprees, too. But just this year, you had the Democrats attempting to spend MUCH more than we currently are, thwarted only by 100& GOP opposition and Joe Manchin. I believe that alone justifies my statement that we know Democrats would spend more. They were explicit in their attempt to do so.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 2:09 pm to troyt37
You’re better off wiping your arse with the ballot than voting anymore. Oh wait it’s digital so they can cheat openly you can’t even do that just stay home. The GOPe is in on the take. They’re laughing themselves stupid
This post was edited on 9/29/22 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 9/29/22 at 2:14 pm to troyt37
"Maybe it makes you a grownup that accepts getting stabbed in the back on a regular basis. A grownup that accepts the fact that there are two different justice systems, and that you actually do not have the rights guaranteed by the Constitution, if the government says no. A grownup who prefers peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom. A grownup that would rather force their children to bleed, fight and die for freedom and liberty if they are ever to have either."
So when you see a choice between an R and a D, you factor these concerns as best you can into deciding which candidate gets you closer to what you believe we should have. You act as if there is some third choice of a libertarian Utopia on the ballot. Let me know if you see it.
So when you see a choice between an R and a D, you factor these concerns as best you can into deciding which candidate gets you closer to what you believe we should have. You act as if there is some third choice of a libertarian Utopia on the ballot. Let me know if you see it.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 2:38 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
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So when you see a choice between an R and a D, you factor these concerns as best you can into deciding which candidate gets you closer to what you believe we should have. You act as if there is some third choice of a libertarian Utopia on the ballot. Let me know if you see it.
Absolutely not. If you care to look, I have a long and fairly ugly history with libertarians and their utopian bullshite.
But after the 2020 election I have decided that having an R next to your name is no longer good enough to earn my vote. This is coming from a man who has voted straight Republican in every federal, state, county, and municipal election since 1988.
I have the choice of not voting in races where the Republican has proven to be a spineless, capitulating sack of shite, and that is exactly what I will do. I am a conservative. I will vote for conservatives. Conservative and Republican are not the same thing. Anyone I vote for will de just as willing to fight this war that started 6-8 years ago as I am. If not, they can FOAD. I’ve been stabbed in the back enough by republicans in the last 34 years. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 125 times and shame on me, because I’m too stupid to live.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 3:16 pm to fareplay
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If they can bring S&P500 back up.
Are you near retirement? If not, then who cares?
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