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Posted on 8/2/25 at 2:32 pm to kilo
quote:All I'm saying is, wouldn't you want a voice in your employment if you were a federal employee? I do not feel sympathy for their struggle because they are well taken care of, but that still does not mean they do not have the right to organize.
cant even acknowledge the issues with FedGov employee unions and the broader implications with that "negotiating" dynamic.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 2:36 pm to Jbird
quote:I was responding to a non-government employee who told me of his experience of union violence.
The thread is about gov employees and federal employee unions.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 2:50 pm to BuckI
Gotcha.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 2:56 pm to BuckI
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All I'm saying is, wouldn't you want a voice in your employment if you were a federal employee?
What the frick is a voice? They want unilateral collective bargaining with no "ownership" even at the table and zero market forces in play. If the agreement fricks over the taxpayers what are we going to do? Go do business with a competing government?
Posted on 8/2/25 at 3:15 pm to UncleFestersLegs
quote:The government has been fricking over the taxpayers for untold trillions of dollars, and only now you are concerned? Federal employee unions should be the least of your worries.
What the frick is a voice? They want unilateral collective bargaining with no "ownership" even at the table and zero market forces in play. If the agreement fricks over the taxpayers what are we going to do? Go do business with a competing government?
Posted on 8/2/25 at 3:20 pm to BuckI
quote:and assertion with neither evidence nor argument presented
only now you are concerned?
quote:congress has the constitutional power to piss away our money which they certainly do. Government employees collectively bargaining with other government employees to defraud taxpayers should be illegal
Federal employee unions should be the least of your worries
Posted on 8/2/25 at 3:22 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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and assertion with neither evidence nor argument presented
Inevitable response. He was backed into a corner.
quote:
congress has the constitutional power to piss away our money which they certainly do. Government employees collectively bargaining with other government employees to defraud taxpayers should be illegal
All of this.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 3:29 pm to NYNolaguy1
That person would be JFK. He helped unionize Federal workers
Posted on 8/2/25 at 3:38 pm to UncleFestersLegs
quote:You should have been a lawyer.
and assertion with neither evidence nor argument presented
quote:. The biggest crooks wear suits and legally rob people. The constitution, you say, gives them that right, but a union should be illegal?
congress has the constitutional power to piss away our money which they certainly do. Government employees collectively bargaining with other government employees to defraud taxpayers should be illegal
Get back to me when the federal employee union puts us in a $36 trillion hole.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 4:03 pm to BuckI
Lol those unions are part of that hole.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 5:44 pm to BuckI
quote:i can't explain it any simpler. Most people believe a thing when they see it while others do the opposite.
The biggest crooks wear suits and legally rob people. The constitution, you say, gives them that right, but a union should be illegal?
Posted on 8/2/25 at 5:56 pm to Jbird
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A federal appeals court on Friday sided with the Trump administration, lifting a temporary block on a March executive order that prevented government workers from union bargaining.
This pleases me immensely. My employer have an employee who works FT at the IRS and work evenings/weekends at my company. She is doing it for the generous benefits that are offered even for PTers. She brags all the time about her gov perks. She has been WFH since COVID and just recently started going back to work in office. That's how she was able to manage 2 jobs. She's also a steward in their union...
This post was edited on 8/2/25 at 6:06 pm
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