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re: Kerch Straight Bridge in Crimea has been destroyed
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:31 am to LookSquirrel
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:31 am to LookSquirrel
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Zelensky has miscalculated, badly, because none of the internationalist players involved in propping up Kiev actually care about Ukraine. If they truly did care about Ukraine,
You misunderstand. Zelensky didn't miscalculate anything. He IS one of the players involved that doesn't give a shite about Ukraine.
These fricks... all of them are after a one world govt. NONE of them care about people or their assigned country.
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:33 am to Errerrerrwere
quote:It also appears they are manning the downvotes with real commitment.
They also RA TF out of you and try and get you banned for letting them know EXACTLY who they really are
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:34 am to OMLandshark
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You really think he’s going to give up Crimea?
That depends entirely on how fast he can regroup or response post-winter.
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The nukes will fly before Putin allows that to happen.
Then Putin is going to launch nukes regardless. That's what you don't get. You keep trying to spin this as an issue for anyone other than Putin/Russia, when it's 100% on them. If they have resigned themselves to nukes, then they will (or at least try to ) launch nukes.
The only other option is permanent appeasement to Russia for anything. Literally.
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Russia has the grain and the fuel to last through winter. Ukraine and Europe do not. Y
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You’re already thinking another six months out when now winter is here.
I imagine Russia is going to regroup during winter, like Ukraine. That's why Ukraine has been so aggro lately. They want Kherson ASAP due to winter being on their doorstep.
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Key word
Russia can throw more troops at Ukraine but they've spent a large part of their load on tanks, aircraft, etc. And if Ukraine is given time to regroup over winter, they will have a much better defensive position/strategy when Russia can mobilize those troops.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:35 am to OMLandshark
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Ones that have not told me Fauci is the hero of the Republic. That’s who you’re listening to.
What the frick does Fauci have to do with this?
I’d recommend, in the future you listen to your OAN, Fox, Newsmax, and Infowars, then listen to your CNN, NBC, ABC, and try to glean real information to ascertain what is real. If your criteria for a good news source is simply “the one that didn’t tell me what I didn’t want to hear” you’re going to be woefully uninformed.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:36 am to SlowFlowPro
Russia will not quit until NATO removes itself from Ukraine, including biolabs. Imagine how America would react if Russia put weapons near the USA border, somewhere like Cuba? What would we do?
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:43 am to HVAU
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What the frick does Fauci have to do with this?
At least he didn't bring up the border, which is my favorite non sequitur in this discussion
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:45 am to SlowFlowPro
Russia has no reason to use nukes, right now. Their use of nukes is spelled out in official doctrine as defensive. We, the "US" however do not have that limitation.
Keep hearing "tactical nukes" thrown around. Why? There are plenty of "conventional" weapons that can be used without crossing any nuclear threshold.
Keep hearing "tactical nukes" thrown around. Why? There are plenty of "conventional" weapons that can be used without crossing any nuclear threshold.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:47 am to OMLandshark
Damned shame. That was a nice bridge. A major engineering feat. I can see the military necessity from the Ukrainian point of view, but it's too bad it came to this.
This war may go down as one of the most stupid in all history. The two countries could have been close friends. Not as close as the US and Canada but close enough to benefit each other.
Now for generations they will see each other as enemies. The Ukrainians call the Russian Orcs and the Russians reciprocate by calling the Ukrainians cockroaches. When there is that level of dehumanization they will have a very difficult time negotiating any kind of peace deal.
This war may go down as one of the most stupid in all history. The two countries could have been close friends. Not as close as the US and Canada but close enough to benefit each other.
Now for generations they will see each other as enemies. The Ukrainians call the Russian Orcs and the Russians reciprocate by calling the Ukrainians cockroaches. When there is that level of dehumanization they will have a very difficult time negotiating any kind of peace deal.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:48 am to LookSquirrel
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Keep hearing "tactical nukes" thrown around. Why?
Fear mongering. You see how effective it is on this very board, with a solid % of posters legitimately convinced this is Russia's next step.
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There are plenty of "conventional" weapons that can be used without crossing any nuclear threshold.
I agree, and I think Russia FAFO'd in this initial offensive and will regroup over winter and think about what to do in response, while Ukraine regroups and establishes defensive positions.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:48 am to OMLandshark
Nobody is nuking anybody. Not going to happen. Just another proxy war to add to the history books. Everyone will have forgotten this event in a couple months.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:49 am to MilwaukeeKosherDills
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The two countries could have been close friends.
This was never an option.
Ukraine could be a puppet of Russia or an enemy of Russia via EU integration. Russia doesn't do diplomacy any other way.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:49 am to THog
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Europe will not quit until Russia removes itself from Ukraine
Fixed for you
Has NATO invaded its neighbors, or any European or European adjacent country in recent history? No.
Has Russia invaded any of its neighbors, or any European or European adjacent country in recent history? Ukraine, Georgia and Chechnya.
NATO and Europe have as much to be concerned about with Russia and Russian weapons at their border, as Russia does conversely. The rationales that suggest to appease Putin in the matter are flimsy at best.
This post was edited on 10/8/22 at 10:52 am
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:49 am to HVAU
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What the frick does Fauci have to do with this?
Because I’m trying to lift the wool from your eyes. You people in that thread talk no differently, think no differently, and act no differently than Covidiots. It’s verbatim how you act.
Any information you don’t like, you flip your shite and label it Russian disinformation. Anyone who questions the authorities in this war, you tell them to shut the frick up and do as you’re fricking told. If anyone suspects we’re being fed propaganda from the West, we’re told to stop thinking and listen to the experts. If anyone says what we’re currently doing may get more people killed in the end and that the cure may be worse than the disease/war itself, you’re called a Putin cocksucker. If we suspect they’re intentionally prolonging the conflict to line the pockets of organizations and special interest groups and consolidate power, you’re called a crazy person. If you’re not for printing endless pallets of cash and have questions where that money is going, then you want people to die.
Again no fricking difference between you and a Fauci acolyte whatsoever. It’s the exact same line of reasoning, the exact same insults, the exact same bullying tactics, and the exact same lemming mentality. And here’s the thing: you probably agree with me on Fauci since he’s the most hated person in America, but you just can’t see this.
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I’d recommend, in the future you listen to your OAN, Fox, Newsmax, and Infowars, then listen to your CNN, NBC, ABC, and try to glean real information to ascertain what is real. If your criteria for a good news source is simply “the one that didn’t tell me what I didn’t want to hear” you’re going to be woefully uninformed.
Don’t listen to literally any of these. Guessing you’re Gen X or a Boomer, but no I listen to individuals and not organizations. Individuals who have earned my trust and not lied to me. All of these organizations are fricking liars and are not to be taken seriously.
This post was edited on 10/8/22 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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legitimately convinced this is Russia's next step.
The person you voted for just said this was a possibikity
So does the media daily. The ones that you rely on for your up to date info of this war
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:50 am to HVAU
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Has NATO invaded its neighbors, or any European or European adjacent country in recent history? No.
Has NATO been invaded? No. So therefore I’m not interested in a war with Russia, proxy or otherwise.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:51 am to Shut Up Mulllet
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Nobody is nuking anybody. Not going to happen. Just another proxy war to add to the history books. Everyone will have forgotten this event in a couple months.
Oh the arrogance. The international equivalent of “Hold My Beer”.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:51 am to LookSquirrel
The attack on the bridge is something Russia can and will use effectively to further push towards all out war.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:53 am to SDVTiger
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The person you voted for just said this was a possibikity
No the person I voted for is in trouble for wearing a "White Lives Matter" t-shirt.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:54 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:This is not happening. Your war mongering aside
Fear mongering. You see how effective it is on this very board, with a solid % of posters legitimately convinced this is Russia's next step.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:57 am to HVAU
quote:The obama biden nuland CIA presence can be characterized as belligerent action.
Has NATO invaded its neighbors, or any European or European adjacent country in recent history? No.
In fact it is textbook definition in the Great-Powers philosophies of 'invasion', 'adventuring'
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