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Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:43 pm to
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:43 pm to
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Their goal has been forcible suppression of the opposition and that is exactly what is written in the textbook definition of what a facist is.


i don't support their techniques, or tactics but their strategy is not forcible suppression of the opposition. It is direct confrontation and action.

Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2984 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:44 pm to
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Dude, their name is "antifascists" shortened.


Fascism is most often equated with robust authoritarianism, no? AntiFa is as authoritarian as it gets.

I guess if we were being more specific I could say that are outright communists as communism is seen as the left wing alternative to fascism.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23712 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:45 pm to
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It is direct confrontation and action.


So is it ok for Communist and not Nazis? Or should we denounce violence on all sides?
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2984 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:45 pm to
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but their strategy is not forcible suppression of the opposition


Yes it is. They use violence and threats. How is the not forcible suppression?
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:45 pm to
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a lion doesn't concern himself with the opinions of a sheep


are you a lannister?
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if fricking morons want to be sheep, then i can't help them. that doesn't mean that from an objective, rational perspective, he invalidated anything


No, he certainly did invalidate it by saying both sides are the same. Read the presser, it didn't go well by any means.
Posted by Abadeebadaba
FL
Member since Sep 2010
5036 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:51 pm to
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Anyone saying "both sides" over Charlottesville is doing just that. There were Nazis, then there were people protesting the Nazis.


You know real Nazis would have never applied for a "permit" to speak. So these "nazis" that you speak of are extremists with extremists views. But, just keep blaming everyone on the "right" for the shite. I am sure you will one day reach your end goal of living in an echo chamber with only people you agree with. What happened to the blue collar democrats with morals? Miss those guys.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:55 pm to
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Dude, their name is "antifascists" shortened.

They are anti fascists. you might not like their techniques but that is there stated goal.
I can call myself a goat. That doesn't make me a goat.

They are what they say they protest. That's indisputable
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:56 pm to
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AntiFa is as authoritarian as it gets.

it is not, they are leftist anarchists. I don't like their strategy or tactics.

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I guess if we were being more specific I could say that are outright communists as communism is seen as the left wing alternative to fascism.


It is WAYYYYY more complicated than that. But they identify as anarchists, and anti capitalists. You probably have a mishmash of actual economic and political idealogies. The left is pretty splintered when it comes to this.

Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21274 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:56 pm to
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The alt left (whatever that is) =/= Nazis.

they're just as bad. they're communists

communists killed more people than Nazis ever dreamed of


And they are all rooted in Marxist theory.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110357 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:57 pm to
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anarchists


Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156777 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:57 pm to
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It is direct confrontation and action.


Violence
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:59 pm to
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it is not, they are leftist anarchists.
anarchists. Roflmao. that's got to be the only anarchists on the planet who support universal healthcare and free college for all
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:00 pm to
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anarchists. Roflmao. that's got to be the only anarchists on the planet who support universal healthcare and free college for all


Can you link me to antifa's website where it outlines their positions? A policy document? Or just a general sketch of their beliefs.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51360 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:01 pm to
Can either one of y'all do it?
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:03 pm to
you can't b.c there isn't an ANTIFA website, which is sorta the point of my request.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:07 pm to
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If you think r politics is a reflection of the nation you are so far left you can't even see the middle.

Kinda nullifies the dumbass OP
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:08 pm to
Hey man. I have no plans to try and dissuade you from defending that group like you seem so committed to do. You just keep on pretending you're stupid along with the rest of your Lefty friends and side with them because I will guarantee you that they're going to come in a lot more violence in the coming years then any group of idiots with Nazi Flags will be committing
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:10 pm to
When that happens these assholes will backpedal like neon Deion in his prime
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156777 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:10 pm to
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Can you link me to antifa's website


itsgoingdown.org
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:11 pm to
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Wait...BamaAlt is a woman


You didn't know this. She's a black woman. Whose dishonesty and willful ignorance is unmatched on this board. She's definitely a fanatic. Almost like a rabid animal. I don't think there's any coming back from it either. Whatever reasoning, objective human being she ever was is gone and is never coming back. Most of the left today is infected with this disease. We need to start looking at some solutions to this problem that she and other's present. Something final.
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