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re: Let's talk about military spending
Posted on 3/17/17 at 2:53 pm to WhiskeyPapa
Posted on 3/17/17 at 2:53 pm to WhiskeyPapa
quote:Except that's pretty much how we fought all the wars we actually cleanly won.
Reservists are never going to be able to take the lead in anything like that.
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Posted on 3/17/17 at 2:53 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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telling Japan and Korea best of luck.
Allowing Japan out of its arms restrictions would destabilize the region- like South Korea signing a cooperation treaty with China destabilizing.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 2:55 pm to Navytiger74
quote:Don't mess up his dumbassery. Guess he forgot that Mr Lincoln's war was fought primarily by militias. As has every successful American conflict.
Except that's pretty much how we fought all the wars we actually cleanly won.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 2:59 pm to Wolfhound45
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I don't respond to your posts because they are stunningly devoid of substance or logic. And yet that never stops you from typing out your drivel. You literally cited your own post the other night. Seriously.
In other words, dumbassery.
Well, that is content free.
You are still upset about me calling you out for claiming that Oswald acted alone aren't you?
United States House Select Committee on Assassinations
"The United States House of Representatives Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) was established in 1976 to investigate the assassinations of John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King, Jr. The HSCA completed its investigation in 1978 and issued its final report the following year, concluding that Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy. Acoustic analysis of a police channel dictabelt recording,[1] the HSCA also commissioned numerous other scientific studies of assassination-related evidence that corroborate the Warren Commission's findings.[2]
The HSCA found that although the Commission and the different agencies and departments examining Kennedy's assassination performed in good faith and were thorough in their investigation of Lee Harvey Oswald, they performed with “varying degrees of competency” and the search for possible conspiracy was inadequate.[1]:2 The HSCA determined, based on available evidence, that the probable conspiracy did not involve the governments of the Soviet Union or Cuba. The committee also stated that the conspiracy did not involve any organized crime group, anti-Castro group, nor the FBI, CIA, or Secret Service."
LINK
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Posted on 3/17/17 at 3:00 pm to WhiskeyPapa
Bruh
Posted on 3/17/17 at 3:01 pm to WhiskeyPapa
Moron. I did not even post in that thread. Just pointing out the fact you cited your own post as an authority. If that is not being a dumbass I don't know what is.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 3:02 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:He makes Toothpick look sane.
Bruh
Posted on 3/17/17 at 3:02 pm to Wolfhound45
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Except that's pretty much how we fought all the wars we actually cleanly won.
Don't mess up his dumbassery. Guess he forgot that Mr Lincoln's war was fought primarily by militias. As has every successful American conflict.
Operation OVERLORD was not planned by militias.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 3:04 pm to WhiskeyPapa
quote:Its almost as if it was planned by career military professionals and executed by average Americans who were called to service in a time of war.
Operation OVERLORD was not planned by militias.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 3:04 pm to Wolfhound45
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Moron. I did not even post in that thread. Just pointing out the fact you cited your own post as an authority. If that is not being a dumbass I don't know what is.
Why exactly is posting the same thing twice a non-starter?
It is a draft e-mail I keep handy.
If it was such a bad idea why did we invade Iraq? Four reasons:
1. Iraq's military was crappy by western standards, and badly damaged on Desert Storm in 1991. Easy target.
2. The Bushies needed to look tough on terror for the 2004 election after their miserable failure on 9/11. Dead US servicemen were needed. Really fighting Al Qaeda would be done in the shadows.
3. It personally made Dick Cheney very wealth based on his association with Haliburton, who got many many no bid contracts.
4. Getting rid of Saddam was a priority objective of Israel.
As we have seen, destroying the stability of Iraq has been the worst foreign policy decision of at least the last 100 years.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 3:04 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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But the expeditionary nature of the naval services require that they be active components and they can handle small wars and hold off the big ones until we can spool up our reserves.
The Navy cannot take or hold any ground at all, and the USMC's defensive capabilities are relatively dubious as well. The carriers are great for strikes and shows of force. USMC, man for man, is about as good as it gets as a strike force for small and intermediate target near shore.
But, to threaten anything else - we need the big birds and BCTs.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 3:04 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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Operation OVERLORD was not planned by militias.
That was a rather dumb example to use...
Posted on 3/17/17 at 3:05 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Its almost as if it was planned by career military professionals and executed by average Americans who were called to service in a time of war.
Zing.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 3:06 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:I'm not saying get rid of them. Im saying make them reserve units that are available for mobilization when needed.
But, to threaten anything else - we need the big birds and BCTs.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 3:06 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Operation OVERLORD was not planned by militias.
Its almost as if it was planned by career military professionals and executed by average Americans who were called to service in a time of war.
Yeah.
There is an anecdote from early in the war where Admiral King is reported to have said, "I don't know what this logistics thing Marshall keeps talking about is, but we might want to get some."
Posted on 3/17/17 at 3:07 pm to Centinel
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Operation OVERLORD was not planned by militias.
That was a rather dumb example to use...
I don't know why. What became OVERLORD was planned for four years. And not by reservists.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 3:07 pm to WhiskeyPapa
quote:You are literally a moron. I am just stunned. Research the Organized Reserve Corps and the Plattsburg Camp movement.
Operation OVERLORD was not planned by militias.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 3:09 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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I don't know why.
GT23 explained exactly why rather succinctly.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 3:09 pm to Ace Midnight
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The Navy cannot take or hold any ground at all, and the USMC's defensive capabilities are relatively dubious as well.
When the USSR was in the balance that was probably true. I don't know why you would say that now.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 3:09 pm to Wolfhound45
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As has every successful American conflict.
Well - as a member of the reserve component I'm not going to derogate our extreme importance in large conflicts - and I'm for a smaller regular force across the board, there just isn't the time response available now as there was then.
WWII wasn't a bunch of mobilized reserve units, either - it was a bunch of volunteers, recalls and conscripts with reservists thrown in (particularly for the Navy it turns out). If we're going to go back to the Civil War - the CSA started shooting in April 1861 and Mr. Lincoln's forces were ready to fight back about 2 years later. We just wouldn't ever have that time now.
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