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re: Nevada county will charge inmates for food and medical care
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:20 am to DawgfaninCa
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:20 am to DawgfaninCa
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now they can buy weed legally then sell it for a profit to underage children who can't buy weed legally.
???
Except that children now can buy marijuana as any purchases are illegal. Hell I know my 14 year old friends were dabbling in marijuana and it was much more available than alcohol.
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The guy selling the shite on the corner is not going to open a shop and be legal he will move on to the next low overhead illegal drug.
You are so moving the goalposts here. You feel as if you can't argue successfully on marijuana legalization and instead try to frame the issue as 'all drugs legal or no drugs' when in fact the discussion has never been about such.
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 11:21 am
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:21 am to Choctaw
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but it is illegal....so until it is no longer illegal your point is moot
Why doesn't he and others who agree with him petition Oduma to sign an executive order to make it legal instead of sitting around all day whacked out of their minds listening to music and playing video games?
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:21 am to MagicCityBlazer
quote:So what changes now Cheech?
Except that children now can buy marijuana as any purchases are illegal.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:21 am to Jbird
it amazes me how so many people live in this fairy tale land.
all we have to do is make all drugs legal and nobody will commit any crimes
all we have to do is make all drugs legal and nobody will commit any crimes
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 11:22 am
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:21 am to Choctaw
You forgot non-violent.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:22 am to Choctaw
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all we have to is make all drugs legal and nobody will commit any crimes
Nice ad hominems about fairy tales.
Making these vices legal would help society greatly. Of course other crimes will still occur, why you are spewing this nonsense is beyond me.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:26 am to MagicCityBlazer
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Except that children now can buy marijuana as any purchases are illegal. Hell I know my 14 year old friends were dabbling in marijuana and it was much more available than alcohol.
My point is that even when you legalize the use of weed for adults it still won't stop the illegal sale of weed and it might even create more weed sellers because it will be very easy to buy it.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:28 am to DawgfaninCa
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My point is that even when you legalize the use of weed for adults it still won't stop the illegal sale of weed
Kids can buy weed now, regulating it will create more control to help keep kids away. Right now it is the wild west in terms of marijuana, legalization would help put prevention methods in place.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:29 am to MagicCityBlazer
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Making these vices legal would help society greatly. Of course other crimes will still occur, why you are spewing this nonsense is beyond me.
actually, i don't give a shite about weed. i'm more amazed at the fact that you think a prisoner doing laundry or making license plates is akin to slavery.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:32 am to Choctaw
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actually, i don't give a shite about weed. i'm more amazed at the fact that you think a prisoner doing laundry or making license plates is akin to slavery.
I agree. God forbid that a prisoner has to do some menial manual labor to pay for the cost of their incarceration.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:33 am to Choctaw
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you think a prisoner doing laundry or making license plates is akin to slavery.
Having them do it for a quarter an hour is bad. It is abusing the situation of incarceration to make a few dollars.
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The worst abuses of the PIE program occur in the agricultural sector, particularly in states where draconian immigration laws have led to labor shortages that have left crops rotting in fields. Rather than have to pay real-world wages, farmers turned to lawmakers to help, who, in turn, were only too happy to offer up their prisoners as a cheap alternative. In Arizona, for instance, a state law requires that all able-bodied inmates must work. Prisoners who do jobs within the institution can expect to be paid between 10 cents and 50 cents an hour, but those lucky enough to get a job working for one of Arizona's Department of Corrections (ADC)'s private partners can expect to be paid a whopping fee of "more than 50 cents an hour".
The Guardian
The whole thing is to pad some profit sheets who in turn donate to the 'right' candidate.
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I asked an NCIA spokesperson, Wil Helsop, how Martori Farms and other private companies can get away with what could reasonably be described as forced labor. He explained that the PIE program classifies certain work functions as a "service" rather than an actual "job", and therefore is not subject to the criteria. Conveniently, then, the backbreaking work of picking crops in the blistering sun counts as a "service", so prisoners can be paid even less than the immigrants who have traditionally performed this work.
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 11:35 am
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:34 am to MagicCityBlazer
quote:No, I don't mind slavery, and neither does the Constitution, when imposed as punishment for a crime. FYI, here is the text of the Thirteenth Amendment.
Ah, obviously you don't mind slavery.
quote:You might argue that the punishment is cruel and inhumane, but how could this amendment that came after the amendment forbidding cruel and inhumane punishments have been adopted if slavery is a cruel and inhumane punishment? The punishment is specifically permitted by the Constitution.
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:35 am to lsuroadie
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And time, after time, after m'fing TIME! the kid has umpteen court appearances for minor shite, marijuana, skipping school, whatever.... and he's been coddled, processed...but never once, not once did he get jail time.
Anytime someone skips school or whatever we should put them away for life. However, once we can get the liberal pansies out of office we need to push for the death penalty for those school skipping #$%$^#'s.
No school skipping on my watch.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:36 am to MagicCityBlazer
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Kids can buy weed now, regulating it will create more control to help keep kids away. Right now it is the wild west in terms of marijuana, legalization would help put prevention methods in place.
Nonsense.
When you legalize the use of weed for adults that means the weed sellers will lose their adult customers and will need to sell their weed to kids who can't buy it legally.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:36 am to Poodlebrain
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You might argue that the punishment is cruel and inhumane, but how could this amendment that came after the amendment forbidding cruel and inhumane punishments have been adopted if slavery is a cruel and inhumane punishment?
Really? Using a document I never signed to prove I'm a hypocrite?
Slavery is wrong, forced labor is wrong, and letting prisons and big business work together to exploit the situation of the incarcerated is wrong.
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When you legalize the use of weed for adults that means the weed sellers will lose their adult customers and will need to sell their weed to kids who can't buy it legally.
I get it, you have decided that marijuana should remain illegal. I don't agree. Please don't use logical fallacies like this when it is equally true to the sale of alcohol.
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 11:38 am
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:37 am to MagicCityBlazer
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I know my 14 year old friends
you know somewhere back about 3 pages a little voice was telling me you're like arguing with my kids.
And ALAS! The voice was correct.
Thus I'm the idiot for wasting the last hour of my life arguing with someone that has no accountability for his life. Supporting your 3 pages of idiotic postings.
Have a great day!
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:37 am to lsuroadie
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another added to the stupid list.
Now you have someone else to keep you company?
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:37 am to MagicCityBlazer
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. In Arizona, for instance, a state law requires that all able-bodied inmates must work. Prisoners who do jobs within the institution can expect to be paid between 10 cents and 50 cents an hour, but those lucky enough to get a job working for one of Arizona's Department of Corrections (ADC)'s private partners can expect to be paid a whopping fee of "more than 50 cents an hour".
sounds like a win/win to me.
did you know that Angola used to be entirely self-sufficient? grew their own crops and everything. until the pussy bleeding heart liberals thought it was too cruel for a prisoner to have to plant lettuce.
like i said...its not that hard to NOT go to prison.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:38 am to MagicCityBlazer
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A lot of people in jail are simple marijuana possesion,
Define simple. An ounce of weed ain't landing anyone in county prison.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:38 am to Jbird
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So all drugs should be legal.
Why do you care what I put in my body, I certainly do not care what you put in yours.
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