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re: NY Times: Pentagon’s UFO Program - aerospace/esoteric/quantum mechanics/future
Posted on 10/30/19 at 5:57 pm to ThinePreparedAni
Posted on 10/30/19 at 5:57 pm to ThinePreparedAni
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30499/the-truth-is-the-military-has-been-researching-anti-gravity-for-nearly-70-years
Black world tech vs the “others”
May be why the others are interested in our nuclear installations..
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The Truth Is The Military Has Been Researching "Anti-Gravity" For Nearly 70 Years It sounds like science fiction, but the military began working to overcome and harness gravity in the 1950s. From what we can tell, it never stopped.
BY BRETT TINGLEYOCTOBER 29, 2019
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In our dive into what seems like something of a bottomless rabbit hole of government studies into this exotic scientific realm, we have collected a body of research, news reports, and firsthand accounts. These establish the fact that the types of "anti-gravity", propellantless propulsion, and mass reduction technologies described in the Navy’s recent "UFO" patents are at least based on more than 60 years of peer-reviewed research conducted and published by the likes of the American Institute of Physics, NASA, the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, and the Air Force Research Laboratory.
While we can't say that any of this research led to actually being able to harness "anti-gravity" or extremely advanced next-generation propulsion technologies to any useful extent, the most advanced laboratories under control of both the armed forces and the academic world have certainly been trying their best to get there for the better part of a century. Also, keep in mind that all of this information comes from unclassified sources, and there is definitely more of it than just what is represented here. We can only wonder how much work has been done in the classified realm on what was once openly considered the next massive revolution in aerospace technology.
Black world tech vs the “others”
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Throughout his short speech given at the roundtable, Witten says that even though he faced ridicule within the scientific community for his research, there was no shortage of people who would tell him they knew how to achieve anti-gravity:
“Some of them were very simple ideas. The simple ideas are always hard to combat. Suppose somebody comes to you and says 'I have a rock of bismuth that demonstrates anti-gravity.' What do you do? There was a Vice President of the Martin Company who brought that up, he said 'I read about a guy in Indiana who says a rock of bismuth…' I said 'It’s nonsense.' He said ‘How do you know it’s nonsense? How do you know there’s no isotope of bismuth that shows anti-gravity?' What do you say to that?”
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Still, Talbert points out that some of the brightest minds in aerospace engineering and physics were devoted to studying gravity at the time, studies which led to important breakthroughs in general relativity:
The current efforts to understand gravity and universal gravitation both at the sub-atomic level and at the level of the universe have the positive backing today of many of America's outstanding physicists.
These include Dr. Edward Teller of the University of California, who received prime credit for developing the hydrogen bomb; Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer, director of the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton; Dr. Freeman J. Dyson, theoretical physicist at the Institute, and Dr. John A. Wheeler, professor of physics at Princeton University who made important contributions to America's first nuclear fission project. It must be stressed that scientists in this group approach the problem only from the standpoint of pure research. They refuse to predict exactly in what directions the search will lead or whether it will be successful beyond broadening human knowledge generally.
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Grover Loening, who was the first graduate in aeronautics in an American university and the first engineer hired by the Wright Brothers, holds similar views. Over a period of forty years, Mr. Loening has had a distinguished career as an aircraft designer and builder and recently was decorated by the United States Air Force for his work as a special scientific consultant. "I firmly believe that before long man will acquire the ability to build an electromagnetic contra-gravity mechanism that works," he says. "Much the same line of reasoning that enabled scientists to split up atomic structures also will enable them to learn the nature of gravitational attraction and ways to counter it." Right now there is considerable difference of opinion among those working to discover the secret of gravity and universal gravitation as to exactly how long the project will take. George S. Trimble, a brilliant young scientist who is head of the new advanced design division of Martin Aircraft in Baltimore and a member of the sub-committee on high-speed aerodynamics of the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics, believes that it could be done relatively quickly if sufficient resources and momentum were put behind the program. "I think we could do the job in about the time that it actually required to build the first atom bomb if enough trained scientific brainpower simultaneously began thinking about and working towards a solution," he said. "Actually, the biggest deterrent to scientific progress is a refusal of some people, including scientists, to believe that things which seem amazing can really happen... I know that if Washington decides that it is vital to our national survival to go where we want and do what we want without having to worry about gravity, we'd find the answer rapidly."
May be why the others are interested in our nuclear installations..
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Based on the recent announcement declaring a partnership with TTSA, we know even the U.S. Army is also exploring similar concepts for next-generation ground vehicles that exploit the same principles the USAF has explored for decades: mass manipulation, electromagnetic metamaterial waveguides, and quantum physics.
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 6:11 pm to ThinePreparedAni
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In an attempt to achieve breakthrough propulsion based on these concepts, NASA’s project identified three major barriers that stood in the way of their main goal of achieving interstellar travel:
(1) MASS: Discover new propulsion methods that eliminate or dramatically reduce the need for propellant. This implies discovering fundamentally new ways to create motion, presumably by manipulating inertia, gravity, or by any other interactions between matter, fields, and spacetime.
(2) SPEED: Discover how to attain the ultimate achievable transit speeds to dramatically reduce travel times. This implies discovering a means to move a vehicle at or near the actual maximum speed limit for motion through space or through the motion of spacetime itself (if possible, this means circumventing the light speed limit).
(3)ENERGY: Discover fundamentally new modes of on board energy generation to power these propulsion devices. This third goal is included since the first two breakthroughs could require breakthroughs in energy generation, and since the physics underlying the propulsion goals is closely linked to energy physics.
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In 1997, NASA’s Lewis Research Center, now known as the John H. Glenn Research Center at Lewis Field, held a conference on these breakthrough propulsion concepts, the proceedings of which are worth a read and contain titles such as “Inertial Mass as a Reaction of the Vacuum to Accelerated Motion”, “Force Field Propulsion”, and “The Zero-Point Field and the NASA Challenge to Create the Space Drive”. From what little we know or think we know about Salvatore Cezar Pais, the elusive inventor of the Navy’s intriguing if not puzzling anti-gravity ‘UFO’ patents that we’ve explored in our previous reporting, he was working on his PhD dissertation at Case Western Reserve University while serving as a NASA Graduate Student Research Fellow at NASA’s John H. Glenn Research Center at Lewis Field at the time of the conference. There’s no concrete evidence that Pais attended the workshop, but according to the document’s foreword, 12 students were in attendance. The table of contents for the conference proceedings lists a total of 449 pages, the last of which is a list of workshop participants. However, the versions available online stop at page 389. We are currently pursuing a Freedom of Information Act request to obtain the missing pages. Confirming Pais' presence at the conference would be significant because many of the exact same revolutionary concepts that NASA was exploring in terms of unlocking new forms of propulsion and space travel are the same types of concepts found throughout the patents for his "hybrid aerospace-underwater craft" and "high energy electromagnetic field generator." Many of the participants at NASA's workshop are also cited throughout Pais' patents and publications. Placing Pais at the conference would add to the body of evidence which suggests the technologies in the Navy's patents may have been in the works for the past 20 years, at least as far as the inventor is concerned. In reality though, as we've laid out here, many of the concepts in Pais' patents are similar to those which were researched at Wright-Patterson and other facilities in the 1950s and are still being explored today.
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There have been hints of those secret technologies for years offered by insiders of some of America's most high-level aerospace research and development outfits. For instance, Ben Rich, the second director of Lockheed Martin’s Skunk Works, told Popular Science in 1994 the following:
“We have some new things. We are not stagnating. What we are doing is updating ourselves, without advertising. There are some new programs, and there are certain things, some of them 20 or 30 years old, that are still breakthroughs and appropriate to keep quiet about [because] other people don’t have them yet.”
With this in mind, it is possible that there are certain technologies in existence that once were, but may no longer be the things of science fiction. Regardless, when it comes to harnessing exotic methods of overcoming gravity, the U.S. military’s interest in doing so has continued since the 1950s, and civilian laboratories have been hot on their heels. We're still pursuing answers to the enigma surrounding the recent Navy patents, but to say they have come out of the blue and have no scientific basis whatsoever seems to be not entirely accurate based on the decades of research we've presented here. The same principles and many of the same names cited in Salvatore Pais' patents filed for the US Navy between 2015 and 2018 appear throughout numerous NASA studies, the peer-reviewed publications of the scientific community, and the long history of U.S. government-funded research into general relativity and breakthrough propulsion science. We have to stress once again that this doesn't mean that actually realizing these concepts and putting them to use is possible at this time, or even ever in the future, for that matter. But it does show that there has been an incredibly long and detailed history of interest by the U.S. military and the scientific community in this exotic field that has resulted in significant amounts of research that spans nearly seven decades. All this occurred in spite of the fact that scientists realized as far back as the 1950s that the topic was largely taboo and often scoffed at by the larger scientific community.
Not so ironically the scoffing still goes on...
Posted on 11/3/19 at 7:42 am to ThinePreparedAni
https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/467860-navy-acknowledges-ufos-why-arent-they-on-washingtons-radar#
Carnegie / Mellon...
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November 02, 2019 - 04:30 PM EDT
The Navy acknowledges UFOs — so why aren't they on Washington's radar?
BY CHRISTOPHER MELLON, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR l
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In what could be a precursor to further stunning developments, the U.S. Navy has publicly acknowledged that the advanced aircraft depicted in several recently declassified gun-camera videos are UFOs, or what the Navy prefers to call “Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon” (UAPs). “The Navy designates the objects contained in these videos as unidentified aerial phenomena,” acknowledged Joseph Gradisher, spokesman for the deputy chief of naval operations, referring to the bizarre vehicles that have brazenly operated in restricted U.S. military airspace.
Strangely, this shocking announcement seems to have scarcely been noticed by Congress or the Trump administration. Is the information too jarring and radical to process? Are U.S. government officials in denial? One can only wonder, given the glaring disconnect between the Navy’s announcement and the limited government actions to protect U.S. military personnel and the nation as a whole.
The vehicles observed and recorded by U.S. Navy fighter pilots seem impervious to altitude or the elements; they are able to maneuver above 80,000 feet; they can hover and then instantly accelerate to supersonic and even hypersonic speeds; they have very low radar cross-sections and use a means of propulsion and control that does not appear to involve combustion, exhaust, rotors, wings or flaps.
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I’ve interviewed numerous active-duty and retired military personnel who have encountered these mysterious vehicles. Without exception they express grave concern for their colleagues and near disbelief that our government is not reacting more vigorously.
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Christopher Mellon served 20 years in the federal government and was deputy assistant Defense secretary for intelligence, 1999-2002, and for security and information operations, 1998-99. From 2002 to 2004, he was minority staff director of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence under Sen. John Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.). He is a national security affairs adviser of To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science and is a consultant and contributor to HISTORY’s nonfiction series, “Unidentified: Inside America’s UFO Investigation.”
Carnegie / Mellon...
Posted on 11/3/19 at 8:06 am to ThinePreparedAni
Wanted to freelance rift a bit here
Below is from the new TTSA book. It delves into “reality” and how this is derived
In short, they argue that there is no accepted modern venue for addressing the spiritual, the supernatural, the unexplainable, the transcendent without appeals to insanity or undermining the fabric / power structure of our society (I /PF refer to this as the “dream world of the proud” which one can find themselves seeming alone in...) because (wait for it), it was not grounded in reality...
Our ancestors/ancients understood that these things were all part of one mystery
And (modern reference)
Below is from the new TTSA book. It delves into “reality” and how this is derived
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It is important to realize that “reality” was a fluid concept before the scientific revolution arrogated to scientists the final word. Reality was composed of both natural and spiritual phenomena, with religious concepts at the heart of the worldview. The very word real is problematic, for it derives from an Indo-European root that has given Romance languages, for instance Spanish, the word real as in “royal” as well as real for “reality,” thus leading us to understand that “reality” was whatever the “royal” said it was. Reality, in this case, is not what we experience; reality is a social construct of science, technology, and cultural attitudes that has been crafted by specialists who are in the employ—via government grants—of the state, i.e., of the “royalty,” and which can change considerably from culture to culture, society to society.
Civilian authorities realize, however, that personal experience can be in conflict with—or entirely opposed to—what the state considers discipline of psychology comes in. Psychology picks up where religion left off: it fills a vacuum created by the scientific revolution. Psychologists can point to behavioral motivations, unconscious states, instincts left over from an earlier, prehistoric age, etc., as the malleable and therefore faulty mechanisms that cause us to see things that are not there, in the sense that they are not part of the sanctioned reality of science and state. Love—which for Marsilio Ficino, Giordano Bruno, and so many others of the Renaissance and the centuries since then was a force of nature, a magical emotion that effected communication and influence across time and space, even “spooky action at a distance”—became something entirely personal, i.e., psychological, and incapable of being measured. Love was analyzed as being the result of a complex of hormones, pheromones, and deep-seated, unresolved psychological conflicts and neuroses, of which Freud’s Oedipal and Electra complexes serve as examples. In their zeal to be accepted as scientists, since science is the only game in town, psychologists attempted to impose standards of measurement and predictability onto the human mind, resulting—after World War II—in the first-ever Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-1).
In short, they argue that there is no accepted modern venue for addressing the spiritual, the supernatural, the unexplainable, the transcendent without appeals to insanity or undermining the fabric / power structure of our society (I /PF refer to this as the “dream world of the proud” which one can find themselves seeming alone in...) because (wait for it), it was not grounded in reality...
Our ancestors/ancients understood that these things were all part of one mystery
And (modern reference)
Posted on 11/4/19 at 1:39 pm to ThinePreparedAni
I am still trying to vet this, but here ya go:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EqY7cbvP-yo
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EqY7cbvP-yo
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BREAKING NEWS: “Tic Tac” UFO’s are Secret US Aircraft! 170 views 7 3 Share Save Report
Hidden Truth Show 5.63K subscribers SUBSCRIBE
Published on Nov 4, 2019
We reveal perhaps the greatest scientific discovery in human history which, up until now, has been kept secret. Former US Air Force Intelligence Specialist Mike Turber discloses that the “Tic Tac” shaped UFOs recently shown in videos released by the US Navy are in fact US Aircraft able to fly at speeds at least 10 times faster than anything achieved before because they have learned how to defeat gravity. Turber hints he has actually flown in one and states Trump flew one to North Korea to impress Kim Jong-un!
Posted on 11/5/19 at 3:05 pm to ThinePreparedAni
Good companion piece to yd’s video about the Tic Tacs being Air Force tech
Below delves into the material science that may have helped derive the “weightless” properties. These themes are in the TTSA/Army contract
Check out the origin of the materials. It invokes thoughts of ours vs theirs (and reverse engineering...)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l4NO_mIPwps
Below delves into the material science that may have helped derive the “weightless” properties. These themes are in the TTSA/Army contract
Check out the origin of the materials. It invokes thoughts of ours vs theirs (and reverse engineering...)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l4NO_mIPwps
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Metamaterials, To The Stars, and the Army
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Published on Nov 5, 2019
In October of 2019 the US Army announced a Cooperative Research and Development Agreement with To The Stars to research alleged metamaterials retrieved from crashed UFOs. This video goes over the history of the metamaterials and details the agreement between the Army and To The Stars.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:32 pm to ThinePreparedAni
So George Knapp (reporter in Las Vegas who is working with TTSA) put up this Youtube Channel that has historic interviews with folks back in the 80’s talking about UFOs. He posted it on Twitter stating that this info is helpful in understanding current events.
His first set of videos are with John Lear...
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCnF47ixgYcCQnu7IMit3A0g
Bill (William) Copper is also in one of the vids (for those who know)
Lear (son of the man who founded Lear jets). Here is what he has stated (in other vids https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HfpIKvEtago)
Massive government UFO coverup
Deep underground bases
The moon is a base of operations for others (he calls it a Soul Catcher)
Earth surface life is one big experiment
And...
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread300230/pg1
https://goldenageofgaia.com/2019/08/08/subs-under-america-video-available-next-10-hours/
There is a vid of him discussing this on Gaia
His first set of videos are with John Lear...
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCnF47ixgYcCQnu7IMit3A0g
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George Knapp talks to John Lear Jan 1987 Part 1 - Mystery Wire 657 views 42 0 Share Save Report Mystery Wire 183 subscribers SUBSCRIBE
Published on Nov 7, 2019 LINK
In January 1987 George Knapp interviews John Lear about UFO's. This aired on KLAS TV, Las Vegas on the "On The Record" show
Bill (William) Copper is also in one of the vids (for those who know)
Lear (son of the man who founded Lear jets). Here is what he has stated (in other vids https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HfpIKvEtago)
Massive government UFO coverup
Deep underground bases
The moon is a base of operations for others (he calls it a Soul Catcher)
Earth surface life is one big experiment
And...
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread300230/pg1
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Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert?
johnlear
+46 more posted on Sep, 1 2007 @ 01:29 AM
https://goldenageofgaia.com/2019/08/08/subs-under-america-video-available-next-10-hours/
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Subs Under America (Video Available Next 10 Hours)
August 8, 2019 by Steve Beckow
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Apparently all or part of the United States is on a tectonic plate that floats on the Pacific Ocean. Submarines can access that underground ocean through canyons like those near Malibu and Monterey and go as far inland as Hawthorne, Sand Point, Lake Tahoe, the now-destroyed China Lake, etc., which explains signs in the desert saying things like “Naval Station.”
This is not the first time I’ve heard these allegations (and I believe them). Back around 2009 when we were discussing Illuminati mag trains, boring machines, and deep, underground military bunkers (DUMBs), submarine travel under the continent was widely discussed. Malibu Canyon Monterey Bay canyon entrance In passing. some of the takeways from this video: A Navy sub shot down Flight 800 by accident when the drone it was following dropped its signal for a millisecond. When the tracking system came back online, it picked up the passenger jet instead. American anti-grav spacecraft can now do 30 times the speed of sound. Still Adamu calls our spacecraft “tin toys and party favors.” (1)
There is a vid of him discussing this on Gaia
Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:49 pm to ThinePreparedAni
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BREAKING NEWS: “Tic Tac” UFO’s are Secret US Aircraft! 170 views 7 3 Share Save Report
Hidden Truth Show 5.63K subscribers SUBSCRIBE
Published on Nov 4, 2019
We reveal perhaps the greatest scientific discovery in human history which, up until now, has been kept secret. Former US Air Force Intelligence Specialist Mike Turber discloses that the “Tic Tac” shaped UFOs recently shown in videos released by the US Navy are in fact US Aircraft able to fly at speeds at least 10 times faster than anything achieved before because they have learned how to defeat gravity. Turber hints he has actually flown in one and states Trump flew one to North Korea to impress Kim Jong-un!
“there are live ETs on Earth at this present time, and at least two of them are working with the United States government.”
Posted on 11/14/19 at 9:27 pm to bmy
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a29771548/navy-ufo-witnesses-tell-truth/?utm_source=reddit.com
The interesting thing is that Commander Fravor claims above did not happen (article goes into this )
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Different write up from a DIA official:
https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/blog/potential-sources-of-information-regarding-unidentified-aerial-phenomenon
Again, we have speculated that these things are based underground, underwater and possibly on our moon...
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The Witnesses
What, exactly, did the Navy encounter 15 years ago off the Southern California coast, when fighter pilots spotted a UFO? These men were there, too?—and it's time they tell their side of the story. image
By Tim McMillan Nov 12, 2019
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Shortly after securing the data bricks, Hughes said he was visited by his commanding officer and two unknown individuals. “They were not on the ship earlier, and I didn’t see them come on. I’m not sure how they got there,” said Hughes of the two men. According to Hughes, his commanding officer told him to turn over the recently secured harddrives. “We put them in the bags, he took them, then he and the two anonymous officers left,” Hughes said.
Inside the Princeton, Voorhis had a similar encounter. “These two guys show up on a helicopter, which wasn’t uncommon, but shortly after they arrived, maybe 20 minutes, I was told by my chain of command to turn over all the data recordings for the AEGIS system,” says Voorhis.
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In addition to turning over his data tapes, Voorhis says he was told by this chain of command he needed to reload the recorders for the ship’s advanced Combat Engagement Center (CEC) because it had also been wiped clean, along with the optical drives with all the radio communications. “They even told me to erase everything that’s in the shop—even the blank tapes.” Voorhis says the only other time he can recall having to turn over his tapes like this was after an aircraft crash during one of his combat deployments.
Up on the Princeton’s flight deck, Weigel says the two men initially arrived on the Princeton via helicopter, wearing generic flight suits. According to Weigelt, the men boarded one of his detachment’s SH-60B helicopters and flew off for a time before returning with “a bunch of bags.” Weigelt says the two men retired to the “Admiral’s Quarters”on the Princeton and a guard was staged outside of the door.
The interesting thing is that Commander Fravor claims above did not happen (article goes into this )
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THE DEFENDERS
While investigating these claims, Popular Mechanics was able to locate and speak to a previously unknown witness who was with the Nimitz carrier group in 2004. Unaware of some of their fellow shipmates previously coming forward, and out of concerns related to security oaths, the witness agreed to speak only under the condition of anonymity. “I do remember the events of 2004 very well,” says the witness, who at the time was an Operations Specialist aboard the USS Princeton. “The decision was made to scramble two fighter jets to investigate.
From what the pilots described, the movement of the UFO was defying the laws of physics.”
Popular Mechanics didn’t provide the witness with any of the previous claims.
“What really made this incident alarming was when a Blackhawk helicopter landed on our ship and took all our information from the top secret rooms,” the witness says. “We were all pretty shocked and it was an unspoken rule not to talk about it because we had secret clearances and didn’t want to jeopardize our careers.” Regarding whether or not there was originally a longer recording than the infamous UFO intercept, Aiello says that’s “entirely possible.”
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Different write up from a DIA official:
https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/blog/potential-sources-of-information-regarding-unidentified-aerial-phenomenon
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Potential Sources of Information Regarding Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon
November 12, 2019
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Regrettably, the Advanced Aerospace Threat Program (AATIP) was unable to obtain the cooperation required to access the systems and databases identified below due to bureaucratic intransigence. Therefore, to the best of my knowledge, these systems and databases represent potentially critical, unexamined sources of official information regarding the UAP phenomenon. Among other things, these vast repositories of data could yield crucial information on UAPs including: speed, acceleration, maneuverability, size, atmospheric effects, shape and possibly even their bases of origin.
Again, we have speculated that these things are based underground, underwater and possibly on our moon...
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Aegis We know from the Nimitz incident that the Navy’s Aegis radar systems are capable of tracking low radar cross-section UAPs that operate at extreme altitudes and velocities. Clearly, the power and precision of the Aegis system, now widely deployed in the fleet, makes it a potentially valuable source of information. For example, a review of the data from Aegis-equipped ships deployed off the East Coast during periods of frequent contact with UAPs could add important pieces to the analytical puzzle that needs to be assembled. Deploying Aegis-equipped ships to "hot spots" off the East could prove highly valuable.
However, some former USS Princeton crew members have openly stated that the Aegis radar data collected during the incidents in November 2004 was soon removed from the ship by individuals who arrived aboard the Princeton by helicopter shortly after the "Tic Tac" encounters occurred. That critical radar data still appears to be missing. Moreover, the deck logs of the USS Princeton for November 2004 are also strangely and inexplicably missing from the National Archives, raising the extraordinary possibility that some secretive USG component is working to conceal UAP incidents and information. The DoD and/or Intelligence oversight committees on Capitol Hill should seek an explanation for these strange occurrences, something easy for them to do. If there is an effort to suppress or conceal UAP data, then we have a situation in which, at a minimum, two USG entities are working at cross-purposes. Whether this is really occurring, and if so on whose authority, are issues that will need to be promptly resolved if DoD is to make serious progress in understanding the UAP phenomenon.
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Conclusion
Aggressive tactical collection to obtain better optical, MASINT and other intelligence is necessary, but older data that can provide a time-series perspective may help answer vital questions such as: Are different kinds or types of vehicles associated with different locations, time-frames or types of targets? If so, are we possibly dealing with multiple, potentially even competing actors? Is there a pattern that suggests an ongoing effort to monitor the US strategic triad or nuclear command and control? Is there a pattern that suggests an effort to monitor US weapons development and deployment? Is there a correlation between advances in US technology and the presence of UAPs?
Posted on 11/15/19 at 9:08 am to ThinePreparedAni
Unidentified. On the History channel. Delong’s team put together the show. Many things here are pointed out there.
Some of those episodes are pretty incredible.
Some of those episodes are pretty incredible.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:34 pm to MississippiLSUfan
https://silvarecord.com/2019/11/15/these-people-claim-ufo-artifacts-are-held-by-the-government-and-or-contractors/
For those not familiar, Corso claims that some of the technology responsible for computers (integrated circuits and fiber optics) are derived from “others” tech...
Roswell crash happened in 1947:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oHBWvRhIFMw&list=PLV8fVZIYP-YNNTDk982riGSNUWjIm1oE1&index=1
Remember that these interview were from 2016 (before The NY Times story broke)...
Delonge comes across as sincere in the interviews
We may have crazy advanced tech that is “our” and “theirs”...
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These People Claim UFO Artifacts are Held by the Government and/or Contractors
NOVEMBER 15, 2019
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So much has been talked about Metamaterials. Metamaterials can be in the form of UFO pieces, UFO debris, technological hardware and theoretically not excluding even implants (in bodies) and whole craft. To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science (TTSA), Jacques Vallee and others claim to possess samples, or at the least, are testing samples to see if they are authentic and anomalous. Dr. Garry Nolan, who used to work with TTSA and also works with Jacques Vallee coined the term Metamaterials to be used in this regard. (There are other definitions of metamaterials that don’t have anything to do with the UFO phenomenon.) Dr. Nolan now says a more accurate term is Ultramaterials. However, the Metamaterials term seems to have stuck.
Many people claim the government and/or contractors, Independent Research and Development activities (IRADs), Special Access Programs (SAPs), Unacknowledged Special Access Programs (USAPs) and other groups possess artifacts. With so many claims of this being the case, and now since the Army is interested in TTSA’s research, the legitimization of Metamaterials studies, and possibly even proof, could be right around the corner. Since TTSA has now entered a Cooperative Research and Development Agreement (CRADA) with the United States Army, they could be eligible for this list, however I will focus on others for now.
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Dr. Davis seems to also buy into at least some aspects of the Col. Philip Corso story. That story may have been embellished over time, but nonetheless parts of it may be true. Speaking about Corso, Dr. Davis said this
“(Corso’s) job as a civilian was to handle the crash retrieval materials and assign them out to the various defense contractors for analysis and reverse engineering study. And so that proved out to be true. And so it’s there. And there have been several other crash retrievals that have happened.”
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For those not familiar, Corso claims that some of the technology responsible for computers (integrated circuits and fiber optics) are derived from “others” tech...
Roswell crash happened in 1947:
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DeLonge: But I know that there were, and I was told, that there were crashES. And we took that… probably got pretty freaked out, pretty scared. We scurried it away, created what they call a “pick up game” of counter intelligence to keep people away from asking hard questions that we didn’t know the answers to, and we created this crash program much bigger than the Manhattan Project, much bigger than Apollo, to figure out how this stuff worked and how to build our own defense system against it should there be more. And I find that just absolutely fascinating.
Knapp: Is it…can you say, is it within government? Is whatever we have in the purview of government or is it outside or a little bit of both? I mean, there are people in government that know, but a lot of people, or at least some of the key players, are outside the framework of government?
Delonge: I believe that it is absolutely in government, but I do believe that a lot of this exists in clever ways. I’m not totally sure if it’s to keep the secret, probably, but I think it’s also to make sure that we get the world’s best and brightest talent working on it. When we first starting having… when we first found the vehicles I know we brought in private industry, military, intelligence…a good diverse group of very very elevated thinkers and said, “How do we handle this?” I know a lot of private industry got deeply involved because that’s where the talent pool was. And those companies working on those things fall under the department of defense and have to operate like government, but its still under a private corporation where certain laws protect their own breakthroughs and proprietary assets. So, I know in my dealings with the advisors that when I asked them…I asked a question very specifically. I said, you know, “Do we…is it legal to be working on this advanced machinery the way you guys are? Or does national security dictate you being able to do whatever you want to do to get the job done?” I wasn’t being disrespectful. I wasn’t saying, “Are you doing something illegal?” It was very clear what they were trying to achieve when the response I got was the exact law, the exact number and the exact paragraph on the government website. I was being pointed to the very specific text of which these national security departments operate under
Knapp: The implication in that sentence is that we got technology from somewhere else, you can call it alien, it’s not ours, foreign. We’ve got technology and we’re trying to figure out how it works and how to defend against it?
DeLonge: Yeah. That’s exactly what’s going on. It’s crazy to believe, it’s super hard to digest, but that’s exactly what’s going on, yeah.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oHBWvRhIFMw&list=PLV8fVZIYP-YNNTDk982riGSNUWjIm1oE1&index=1
Remember that these interview were from 2016 (before The NY Times story broke)...
Delonge comes across as sincere in the interviews
We may have crazy advanced tech that is “our” and “theirs”...
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:00 pm to ThinePreparedAni
Posting this to relate to the prior rant about directed panspermia and Prometheus (earlier in the thread)
Interesting to view these historical vids through a modern lens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAKCldAiQaw&list=PLV8fVZIYP-YMQg7zezs4_qxxY-VOFOI0C&index=7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z35_Y7upg-8&list=PLV8fVZIYP-YMQg7zezs4_qxxY-VOFOI0C&index=8
Below is recent (relates to first link)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prG2F-Jk49o&feature=emb_title
Interesting to view these historical vids through a modern lens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAKCldAiQaw&list=PLV8fVZIYP-YMQg7zezs4_qxxY-VOFOI0C&index=7
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UFO's: The Best Evidence - Nov 1989, Part 7 - George Knapp reports - Mystery Wire
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LINK Religion and UFOs would seem to be topics that don’t mix, but investigative journalist George Knapp found that’s not necessarily the case. Some descriptions in religious writings could even be interpreted as UFO encounters. “UFOs: The Best Evidence” continues in Part 7, originally aired on Nov. 14, 1989, on KLAS TV in Las Vegas. #MysteryWire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z35_Y7upg-8&list=PLV8fVZIYP-YMQg7zezs4_qxxY-VOFOI0C&index=8
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UFO's: The Best Evidence - Nov 1989, Part 8 - George Knapp reports - Mystery Wire
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LINK The worldwide interest in UFOs just won’t go away. Despite discouragement from governments and science and religion, people all over the planet suspect that something is going on and that world governments are hiding something. There is a considerable body of information suggesting that the Earth has been visited, but we still don’t have answers. Investigative reporter George Knapp looks at possible reasons those answers are so hard to come by in the conclusion to “UFOs: The Best Evidence,” which originally aired on Nov. 15, 1989, on KLAS TV in Las Vegas. Last of 8 Parts. #MysteryWire
Below is recent (relates to first link)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prG2F-Jk49o&feature=emb_title
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Biological SETI: Looking At Our DNA
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Imagine that we were genetically engineered by beings from another star system. This may have been done while founders directly visited Earth millions of years ago. Or, an information-packed signal could have been sent into space which reached Earth and somehow triggered alterations in our DNA. Maybe our planet was seeded from space with alien genetic material that evolved elsewhere.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 1:32 pm to ThinePreparedAni
https://medium.com/@deep_1645/curiosity-as-a-time-capsule-393e1f9f6da
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Curiosity As A Time Capsule
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We will investigate and get to the bottom of what is going on to the best of our ability. If it’s true that there are unidentified craft centuries ahead of what we have, with virtually no regard for our laws and wishes, we should damn well investigate. We should know anything and everything about such a technology. If not for the obvious potential of it being a threat, then for the arguably more important possibility of making incredible breakthroughs in a short amount of time through studying what scientific and engineering principles allow for these UAPs to exist. If it turns out that a secret group of humans has surpassed every country, military capability and private industry on the planet by an insurmountable leap, we will report it.
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To make matters more complicated, UAPs are known to actively mask their signatures, are too fast to physically catch, and have seemingly superior reconnaissance abilities. Some are even reported to have mastered certain psychotronic weapon capabilities such as directly extracting information a person has stored mentally in their mind only. As hard as it is to believe, the UAP we are trying to study seemed to have demonstrated this exact capability. Such technology if it exists, is far out of reach for modern neuroscience.
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Today I am curious. I am curious how anyone, human or not, can pull off such mind bending advancements in Science. I am also curious about who is pulling this off, where they are from and what their motivations are. Normally time capsules store physical objects representing the past. This article is a time capsule for the mind instead. I would like to store my best predictions on what the investigation into UAPs will bring, and not just thanks to our group but the efforts of multiple groups like ours:
We will discover that we are not alone in the Universe.
This will become a household fact at some point in the next 5–10 years. Some will naturally debate this no matter how much science and evidence is presented. After all, we still have Flat Earthers even today.
We will discover that the engineers of these advanced technologies are not human, but also NOT extraterrestrials as we define it.
We will find that words like extraterrestrial, ultra-terrestrial and inter-dimensional are all inaccurate descriptions of what the beings behind these UAPs really are. From what I have seen in terms of data, the answer seems like it is going to be complicated if not downright impossible for us to fully grasp with our current knowledge of Physics and Philosophy.
We will discover that an unfortunate amount of Human mythology and folklore is a result of intelligent nonhumans messing with us with holographic technology for some unknown reason.
We will find out much, much more about ourselves and who and what we really are.
Such revelations will shock virtually every sentient person alive. Depressing some, while freeing others (I would wager most..).
We will eventually communicate, human civilization to Alien civilization, for lack of a better word, once enough humans are psychologically ready for first contact.
UAPs will be formally recognized as a valid PhD and Masters topic in the fields of Quantum Information, Quantum Gravity, Condensed Matter Physics, High Energy Physics, Sociology, History, Literature, Engineering and even Biology.
Sometimes the things we can’t change, end up changing us.
Yours Truly,
Deep Prasad
The world belongs to the curious
Do these themes sound familiar???
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:37 am to ThinePreparedAni
File the latter under “esoteric”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=V6W4mM5pJFI
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https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2019/11/philip-k-dick-and-a-truly-bizarre-paranormal-experience/
divi filius, the son of a god
How about the “son of a god”
Could there be some truth to this (gods we discuss here???)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=V6W4mM5pJFI
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https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2019/11/philip-k-dick-and-a-truly-bizarre-paranormal-experience/
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Philip K. Dick and a Truly Bizarre Paranormal Experience
Brent Swancer November 20, 2019
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There is no denying that one of the most well-known and influential authors of science fiction of all time is none other than Philip Kindred Dick. He is the author of such beloved classics as the acclaimed, Hugo Award winning “The Man in the High Castle,” which put his name on the map, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? (1968), upon which the hit film Blade Runner was based, Ubik (1969), A Scanner Darkly (1977) and VALIS (1981), as well as many, many others, over the course of his impressive career penning 44 novels and 121 short stories, many of which have been made into films such as Total Recall, Minority Report and The Adjustment Bureau. Often dealing with deep philosophical themes, shadowy corporate tomfoolery, altered states of consciousness, metaphysics, and the nature of reality, often presented in a very sinister and apocalyptic way, his books and stories have attracted a lot of attention. However, what many may not know is that Dick himself at various points in his career was convinced that reality truly was distorted, and he has some very strange experiences and ideas in his life that gave birth to these ideas, and in many ways, it seems as if Philip K. Dick’s bizarre paranormal experiences were just as strange as anything in his worlds of fiction.
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Dick increasingly suspected that what he was seeing was the actual days of the Roman Empire creeping into his reality, and not only as ghosts of the past, but rather he believed that in reality the age of the Roman Empire creeping into his reality, and not only as ghosts of the past, but rather he believed that in reality the age of Rome had never died at all, and was living on as a sort of shadow existence parallel This was only bolstered by the appearance of “three-eyed extraterrestrial time travelers” who would sometimes come through the mysterious pink light to speak with him, and the story they had was a wild one indeed
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He was told by these entities that time had actually been stopped in 70 AD, right about when the Romans had destroyed the temple of Jerusalem, and that all of the history that he thought he knew was a deception and an illusion by what they called “the Black Iron Prison.” Not only this, but Dick was informed that he was actually an early Christian spy seeking to overthrow the Romans
divi filius, the son of a god
How about the “son of a god”
Could there be some truth to this (gods we discuss here???)
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:05 am to ThinePreparedAni
Y’all may like this (relates to above)
https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/dzhb32/strange_yet_interesting_stuff/?sort=new
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3dgMAbWWIzA
Check out the lyrics
And the “all seeing” symbolism projected onto the wall...
Interesting stuff...
https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/dzhb32/strange_yet_interesting_stuff/?sort=new
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Keep in mind, that i'm Greek, so please, excuse any grammar mistakes of mine.I 'll try my best :) While i find the whole subject fascinating, and keep reading about everything bizarre happening in the US, my own country (and many others) have their own incidents, that most of the times don't make it on the surface.They don't get the publicity that they would deserve. I 'll just focus on the incidents (in Greece), where the American factor was involved (NASA,the US government etc.) I'm gonna kick this off with Mythodea.
NASA needed some music for their Mars mission, back in 2001. It was Greece that was chosen to compose the music.While a composer managed to do it, NASA wanted a concert to be performed at the temple of Zeus in Athens.The Greek side was worried about the temple.They were afraid that the temple could get damaged by the whole thing. NASA assured the Greek government, that the temple would be fine. While they were convinced, they didn't have t he money for such thing. NASA, along with the back then US government, offered to pay. 6 million euros. And that was the result LINK (There are subtitles on screen.Just make sure that you activate them.The translation is about 95% correct.There are some minor mistakes in there but it's fine since you 'll get the meaning). Planet Mars was aligned with the temple that night.The lyrics are in the ancient Greek language, just like the clothes of the singers.Ancient Greek.
Next up, we have a cave.NASA brought their employees, and they explored and researched the cave. For the time NASA was there, no one was allowed to be around the cave, in a quite big radius. This is the cave and some facts about it: LINK Experiments have been run by Greek scientists as well. A strange but interesting thing they found, was that there is something different about the geomagnetic fields around the area. Could be time dilation too..Or both.
There is an uphill road nearby the cave.They placed a car without a driver on that road.The normal thing would be for the car to start going backwards..But the car was going forward on an uphill road.On it's own. And finally, NASA started an exploration program, near the Santorini island.The program ends in 27th of November. It's still going on. Here: LINK I personally believe, that all of these, are pretty interesting..Truth or not, that's for each of us to decide.Same for the reason why they conducted the above(especially Mythodea), as long as you believe that they re true. I 'll finish my post with a fun/cool fact. The word god in the ancient Greek language (and the modern one as well) is the word "theos/?e??". But there was a verb for that word in the ancient Greek as well.The verb "theo/???". It translates into "running/moving fast". So god would mean "the one who moves/runs fast". The meaning of this word was not "the Creator,source of all etc." back then.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3dgMAbWWIzA
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MYTHODEA MOVEMENT 1 WITH LYRICS + ENGLISH SUBTITLES
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TRANSLATION:
ZE US CO ME (x10) CO ME ZEUS EROS YOU CHILD MUST YOU CHILD MUST I CALL YOU CO ME YOU CHILD MUST YOU CHILD MUST ZEUS YOU MY GOD YOU CHILD MUST YOU CHILD MUST YOU CHILD MUST ZEUS YOU MY GOD YOU ARE IN US YOU CHILD MUST (x4) ONE LIVES GOD (x2) I CALL ALSO THE MOTHER, GOD (x2) THE ONE FROM ZEUS ALONE HER, FROM ZEUS CHILD ZEUS CHILD MUST CHILD ZEUS CHILD MUST CHILD MUST CHILD WE PRAY AT LORD ZEUS (x4) ZEUS ALONG WITH MOTHER COME WE PRAY AT LORD ZEUS (x4) ZE US ZE US WE PRAY WE PRAY AT YOU PRAY PRAY WE PRAY WE PRAY WE PRAY AT YOU PRAY PRAY WE PRAY WE PRAY WE PRAY AT YOU PRAY PRAY WE PRAY WE PRAY WE PRAY AT YOU PRAY PRAY WE PRAY
Check out the lyrics
And the “all seeing” symbolism projected onto the wall...
Interesting stuff...
This post was edited on 11/23/19 at 9:07 am
Posted on 11/26/19 at 6:45 pm to ThinePreparedAni
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/officials-still-puzzled-about-hovering-object-that-prompted-lockdown-in-dc
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WHITE HOUSEPublished 58 mins ago
Officials still puzzled about 'hovering' object that prompted lockdown in DC
Chad Pergram By Chad Pergram, Andrew O'Reilly | Fox News
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Security officials on Capitol Hill are still puzzled by what sparked the security threat to be issued Tuesday morning that put both the White House and the Capitol on lockdown.
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The incident caused an abrupt security situation, with jets being scrambled and officers warning people outside Capitol facilities to stay far away. The U.S. Secret Service said personnel at the White House were told to remain in place.
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Security officials received different information regarding the location and speed of the object in question. Officials heard it was “hovering” and were even given “knots” measuring its speed, sources said.
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Fox News is told by security officials that the situation went to “Air Con Orange,” which means a suspicious aircraft piercing the Washington security bubble.
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Law enforcement sources initially told Fox News the lockdown was triggered after an aircraft moving east violated restricted airspace. But Fox News is now told officials may have to go back and review the radar to determine what exactly prompted the scare, with sources saying they got "mixed signals at best" as to what the potential aircraft could have been.
Posted on 11/28/19 at 6:17 pm to ThinePreparedAni
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/birds-balloons-or-a-ufo-what-violated-dc-airspace?_amp=true
Y’all still really think they locked everything down for birds...
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Birds, balloons, or a UFO: What violated DC airspace?
by Tom Rogan | November 27, 2019 04:19 PM
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An extremely compelling unidentified flying object incident occurred over Washington, D.C., in 1952. Did another UFO pay a visit to D.C. on Tuesday? Probably not, but it's a possibility — seriously. First, the facts. An intruding radar contact entered the national capital region air defense area at about 8:30 a.m. on Tuesday. The contact was taken very seriously. The White House and Capitol were locked down, and both fighter jets and a helicopter were scrambled to investigate. NORAD first identified the contact as a "plane," then deleted the associated tweet. Authorities now say the alert was a false alarm. But what was the contact? Capitol Police told CNN that the "big, slow-moving blob of something" might have been birds. Gary Andrews, president of a leading bird-detection radar manufacturer, Detect Inc., told me that birds might indeed have been the culprit because "the government radars may not have bird suppression algorithms." He pointed to a recent bird-related false alarm in South Korea. Alternatively, WTOP's national security correspondent said it might have been a Mylar balloon. But Fox News reported government sources saying the contact was "hovering," at least temporarily.
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First off, the capital air defense area is the nation's most tightly monitored region. The contact entered at least the 30-mile outer ring of the air defense area. That's about all we know. NORAD referenced "operational security" concerns to ignore my questions as to the contact's origin, speed, track path, dissipation/loss-of-track point, and whether it hovered. But the lockdown suggests the contact either entered the capital air defense area's 15-mile inner ring, or got close to it.
Now consider a little something named Sentinel. Sentinel is the Army radar system deployed to protect the government's inner sanctum: the White House, Congress, and the Pentagon. Upgraded in recent years to include tracking of small ground-launched munitions, the platform is world-leading. Sentinel utilizes an extremely advanced X-band radar system, predisposed to discriminating individual birds, balloons, and weather from planes or drones. Birds fly in and out of the D.C. air defense area all-day, everyday, but Tuesday's alert was very rare. I cannot find a similar incident since someone decided to fly a gyrocopter up to the Capitol complex in 2015. The rarity speaks to a key point: The radar operators utilizing Sentinel and other platforms are very good at discriminating birds (geese flocks are always flying in Washington's airspace) and balloons, and separating radar contact merges (where a group of contacts appear as one). Tuesday's contact obviously concerned commanders enough that they launched multiple interceptor aircraft and the Secret Service locked down the White House. Was that because the track showed apparent purpose in flight toward critical facilities?
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Well, ponder this. We do know that intelligently operated machine-based UFOs, not belonging to the U.S., China, or Russia, are now being tracked globally. These invisibility-capable UFOs can travel at hypersonic speeds in the air and hundreds of knots underwater, and often show a special interest in sensitive government facilities (an interest that is increasingly being reciprocated). And yes, they can hover!
Y’all still really think they locked everything down for birds...
Posted on 11/28/19 at 6:27 pm to ThinePreparedAni
Seems like false alarms would be a daily occurence with the amount of birds in the sky...so first it was birds,then a blob, and now a radar anomaly. I smell alot of bullshite.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:18 pm to BananaManCan
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VeqkK358hgs&list=PLV8fVZIYP-YOSZBgPUWM1l-QELGZl9hd7&index=1
Elizondo discusses how:
We are dealing with 1 technology that accounts for all the exotic properties
We are close to understanding the physics regarding how these things work
The craft likely distorts space time
There have been multiple Tic Tac incidents (beyond what was recently reported)
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UFO dilemma pushed Luis Elizondo out of Department of Defense – Part 1, 2018
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In a Jan. 30, 2018, interview with Luis Elizondo, investigative journalist George Knapp asks about government programs dealing with UFOs and Elizondo’s reasons for eventually leaving his position with the Under Secretary of Defense. Part 1 of a 10-part series. #MysteryWire
Elizondo discusses how:
We are dealing with 1 technology that accounts for all the exotic properties
We are close to understanding the physics regarding how these things work
The craft likely distorts space time
There have been multiple Tic Tac incidents (beyond what was recently reported)
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:20 pm to ThinePreparedAni
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Y’all still really think they locked everything down for birds...
What’s your thoughts on the “birds aren’t real” conspiracy?
Ughhhhhhh I can’t wait to reup. Jeeps needs his herbs.
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