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Posted on 8/8/20 at 9:12 pm to
Posted by Thunder
Western by God Vernon Parish
Member since Mar 2006
2421 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 9:12 pm to
Jesus fricking Christ this country is being run with monopoly money!....
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
54231 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 9:15 pm to
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Congress will forgive it unless they want to commit suicide.


Sounds to me like we have people not thinking things through in Congress.

Defer scares me. This will be just like the loans and mortgages. We will see a bust in about a year.

Completely wiping it away would mean inflation hell right?
Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2008
13457 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 9:23 pm to
Go back and listen to his press conference. It sounds like he wants to do away with social security. I think the social security admin would have to do a pay out to what people paid in if they do this but I would support. I could dump another 150k into my 401k on stocks.
This post was edited on 8/8/20 at 9:24 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
139638 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 10:29 pm to
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Which he has to pay back next year correct? Since it’s a deferment?


Technically yes. But congress wont have the balls to make him pay it back. Political suicide.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
139638 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 10:36 pm to
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Jesus fricking Christ this country is being run with monopoly money!....




Well yeah. You just figuring that out? We’ve been on Monopoly money since 1971.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
139638 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 10:39 pm to
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Completely wiping it away would mean inflation hell right?



The main way to combat inflation is with production. Get back to pre COVID economic levels in relation to debt and we should be good.
Posted by bod312
Member since Jul 2015
846 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 11:48 pm to
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I think the social security admin would have to do a pay out to what people paid in if they do this but I would support.


They don't have to do anything. That is optimistic to think you will get everything back that you put into it so far.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17764 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 12:03 am to
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Completely wiping it away would mean inflation hell right?


Only for the things that money is chasing.
Posted by jflsufan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2013
5069 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 12:06 am to
This tells me that you still pay full freight on FICA tax if you make over $100K. It’s not a progressive tax system like the Federal income tax that is withheld from your check. Unless there is other language I would bet it’s all or none on this.

The deferral shall be made available with respect to any employee the amount of whose wages or compensation, as applicable, payable during any bi-weekly pay period generally is less than $4,000, calculated on a pre-tax basis, or the equivalent amount with respect to other pay periods.

I don’t like this language at all. Almost makes me glad that I won’t get the “deferment”.

The Secretary of the Treasury shall explore avenues, including legislation, to eliminate the obligation to pay the taxes deferred pursuant to the implementation of this memorandum.

At least we have this going for us.

Amounts deferred pursuant to the implementation of this memorandum shall be deferred without any penalties, interest, additional amount, or addition to the tax.


Posted by YF12
Ottobaan
Member since Nov 2019
4451 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 12:12 am to
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I think the social security admin would have to do a pay out to what people paid in if they do this but I would support.


The only people getting social security right now have public information that in 1960 the Supreme Court ruled in Flemming vs. Nestor that there is absolutely zero contractual obligation for the federal government to make payments on social security.

As in they have been voting in this case for over 40 years for politicians and promises knowing that it is a slush fund.

frick them.

They should absolutely be the first to get NOTHING from social security.
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 12:13 am
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 1:10 am to
I hope people don't make life decisions based on information they read on td. The majority of our members are fricking morons.

I honestly feel a little more retarded every time I read this shite. I need to just post porn.

Is this what Facebook is like?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35526 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 1:16 am to
What you on about? Just tell me so I ain't gotta look into it myself. Then we can both go back to porn.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 2:22 am to
Such a dumb plan, and it doesn't even go back to July? Trump really, really needs to stop over promising on stuff.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:03 am to
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But those who get paid on a monthly basis...if they make, say $6000/month, gross, only anything after $4000 will be taxed? Only $2000 would be taxed?

Math and reading comprehension are hard.
No way you make even $6K/month
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 8:05 am
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
4485 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:04 am to
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After the point in time I gross $137,700 then I’ll stop paying the tax after that?
This was already the law. There is a maximum earned income at which you are taxed for FICA after which you are no longer taxed. For 2020 that maximum income is $137,700. For 2021 it is projected to be around 141,900. It goes up almost every year.
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Are those that make between $100-138k just screwed then?
Pretty much as far as this goes.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:06 am to
fricking bullshite. More redistribution. frick’em all.... every last one of them.
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