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Posted on 4/9/18 at 6:43 pm to
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 6:43 pm to
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Is this a federal crime though?



18 USC 1344
Posted by Humanelement
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 6:53 pm to
Yes but crime has to identified in warrant. What crime is muller pursuing in raiding Cohens offices. Pure witch hunt looking for any kind of angle. This is treason against a sitting president perpetrated by deep state. Period
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 6:55 pm to
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Yes but crime has to identified in warrant. What crime is muller pursuing in raiding Cohens offices.


FEC regulations, bank fraud, wire fraud. I thought that was covered on page 1.
Posted by IrishTiger89
Member since May 2017
1492 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 6:55 pm to
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Yes but crime has to identified in warrant. What crime is muller pursuing in raiding Cohens offices. Pure witch hunt looking for any kind of angle. This is treason against a sitting president perpetrated by deep state. Period

FEC Violations, Money Laundering, Bank Fraud???

Seriously dude?
This post was edited on 4/9/18 at 6:58 pm
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 6:58 pm to
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Yes but crime has to identified in warrant. What crime is muller pursuing in raiding Cohens offices. Pure witch hunt looking for any kind of angle. This is treason against a sitting president perpetrated by deep state. Period


No, a crime doesn't have to be listed on the warrant. That's not the purpose of a warrant.

An affidavit presents evidence that a warrant could collect MORE evidence and then the warrant simply outlines what may be searched and seized and from where.

A warrant would never list a crime, because that would limit any evidence in that warrant to being used ONLY in an investigation of that specific crime.

A warrant merely lists the target of the warrant. the address authorized , any limits on what may be searched for , and other such guidelines.

Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83889 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 6:58 pm to
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Question I have is what CRIME are they pursuing?

Total fishing expedition. This whole SC bullshite was designed to find SOMETHING, ANYTHING. Just think, at one point they were looking for the KGB rigging the election. Now they’re down to a donation violation that no one would ordinarily care about.
This post was edited on 4/9/18 at 7:08 pm
Posted by IrishTiger89
Member since May 2017
1492 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 7:01 pm to
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Total fishing expedition. This while SC bull shite was designed to find SOMETHING, ANYTHING. Just think, at one point they were looking for the KGB rigging the election. Now they’re down to a donation violation that no one would ordinarily care about.

You cannot honestly admit that a $130k payment to a porn star two weeks before the election doesn't look fishy as hell.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 7:04 pm to
Cohen also handled this exactly wrong from a PR perspective.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 7:05 pm to
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You cannot honestly admit that a $130k payment to a porn star two weeks before the election doesn't look fishy as hell.


It's $130K bro, yeah for sure that justifies this investigation.

Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 7:06 pm to
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Pretty rare, but not everything in a lawyer's office is covered by attorney client privilege.

Would other clients have a case because their files were taken? Does the FBI have the right to read other clients personal information?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 7:07 pm to
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Question I have is what CRIME are they pursuing? Paying off a porn star in a mutual agreement is not a crime. There is no evidence any campaign funds were used.



Exactly. That what establishes it as a fishing expedition.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 7:09 pm to
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It's being reported that they are investigating FEC violations and bank fraud.

How did they get there from "Russian collusion"?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 7:09 pm to
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NONE of them DID do it for Hillary's lawyers.


FIFY.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83889 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 7:11 pm to
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You cannot honestly admit that a $130k payment to a porn star two weeks before the election doesn't look fishy as hell.

Yeah, it looks like hush money to a porn Star. I just can’t bring myself to think this is important in any way.

And no, I didn’t think Clinton should’ve been impeached either. All nonsense I
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 7:11 pm to
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Would other clients have a case because their files were taken? Does the FBI have the right to read other clients personal information?


well in this case Trump is the ONLY client. But let's explain the process.

When you collect information via a warrant that may include material that is covered by attorney client privelege then that material must go through a cleaning process as it is known that separates material the investigative team shouldn't be able to see.

Now here's the funny thing, in the email investigation, Hillary's own lawyers were allowed to decide which files on her computer were protected by attorney client privilege, that's not normal. In normal circumstances either a separate team of investigators or a federal magistrate will go through the material and decide what is and what is not to be made available to investigators.

Posted by IrishTiger89
Member since May 2017
1492 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 7:11 pm to
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How did they get there from "Russian collusion"?

This isn't being handled by Mueller. It is a known fact that Stormy Daniels was paid $130k in hush money 2 weeks before the election.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 7:12 pm to
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FEC regulations, bank fraud, wire fraud. I thought that was covered on page 1.


By the lawyer..not Trump?
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41557 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 7:12 pm to
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You cannot honestly admit that a $130k payment to a porn star two weeks before the election doesn't look fishy as hell.

So does paying a British spy to use his Russian contacts to gather phony opposition research on a candidate, fail to report said expenditures to the FEC and lie about it for over a year.
This post was edited on 4/9/18 at 7:14 pm
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 7:13 pm to
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By the lawyer..not Trump?


Correct.
Posted by IrishTiger89
Member since May 2017
1492 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 7:13 pm to
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So does paying British spy to use his Russian contacts to gather phony opposition research on a candidate, fail to report said expenditures to the FEC and lie about it for over a year.

Correct
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