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re: Run 2.23 for Arbery #werunwitharbery
Posted on 2/25/21 at 9:59 am to LetsgoGamecocks
Posted on 2/25/21 at 9:59 am to LetsgoGamecocks
quote:
Yes there ere multiple videos from multiple days of him on the property, trespassing. Also items were stolen.
And we have another person just making shite up.....
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Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:03 am to 93and99
quote:
There was nothing racist about what happened.
Just curious, was it racist when the shooter yelled "stupid fricking nagger" immediately after killing a black man?
Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:16 am to mouton
quote:
Are you denying that it is fairly common for people to walk through houses under construction?
No, they're probably saying it's odd that someone would sprint away once someone spotted them.
I've walked onto construction sites a lot in my life, I've never ran away when someone saw me.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:17 am to mouton
quote:Well, the underscored language is basically accurate.
Yes there ere multiple videos from multiple days of him on the property, trespassing. Also items were stolen.
And we have another person just making shite up.....
Criminal Trespass and Theft?
not so much.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:17 am to mouton
quote:
Just curious, was it racist when the shooter yelled "stupid fricking nagger" immediately after killing a black man?
If he did yell that, yea.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:19 am to AggieHank86
Items were also stolen, that's why cameras were put up. But we don't know who stole them.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:20 am to Azkiger
quote:The problem with this line of argument is that it is NOT what happened.
No, they're probably saying it's odd that someone would sprint away once someone spotted them.
I've walked onto construction sites a lot in my life, I've never ran away when someone saw me.
He clearly entered the property. The video shows him entering and shows him leaving (without taking anything other than a swallow of tap water).
Cletus and his crew never say Arbery until LATER, when he was jogging down the street.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:22 am to AggieHank86
quote:
The problem with this line of argument is that it is NOT what happened.
I saw the video from the neighbors house across the street.
He was spotted and bolted. Not a jog either, a full out sprint.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:23 am to Azkiger
quote:
Items were also stolen, that's why cameras were put up. But we don't know who stole them
I think the homeowner had cameras because he lived two hours away and the cameras would allow him to monitor the progress.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:27 am to mouton
The quotes I saw from neighbors and maybe even the homeowner said otherwise. The homeowner even scanned his recordings and spotted several young black males (possibly same guy) poking around in the am hours.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:32 am to Azkiger
quote:I've not seen either that video OR any other assertion that such a video exists. This is the very first time I have even heard of this video.
I saw the video from the neighbors house across the street.
He was spotted and bolted. Not a jog either, a full out sprint.
I would be VERY interested in seeing it, since it seem to contradict all the reporting that I HAVE seen.
Can you provide a link?
This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 10:34 am
Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:38 am to SUB
quote:
Is there any evidence this is race based?
These days, I don't think you will find many cases with direct evidence that race was related.
In this case, I believe that guy with the shotgun said "fricking N-word" after Arbery fell to the ground. That certainly won't help his case in regards to a hate crime.
The Dad's statement to police was literally "i saw a black guy running down tbe street"
Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:45 am to Azkiger
quote:
The quotes I saw from neighbors and maybe even the homeowner said otherwise. The homeowner even scanned his recordings and spotted several young black males (possibly same guy) poking around in the am hours
The homeowner confirmed that nothing had EVER been stolen, not sure where you got "am hours" from, but Arbrey did the same thing, multiple times, came in looked around at the work being done, got some tap water, walked out the front and jogged away.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:46 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Can you provide a link?
Youtube
This is the angle, but they cut it short. Went through 4 or 5 that all did the same thing.
The full clip shows him booking it seconds after they cut it though.
Edit: I'd try a bit harder to find the whole clip but I'm at work. But that's the angle and it's from that day,
This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 10:47 am
Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:49 am to Azkiger
quote:
This is the angle, but they cut it short. Went through 4 or 5 that all did the same thing.
Gee, that’s odd.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:49 am to Jeauxs Geaux
quote:PDF of the Police Report
The Dad's statement to police was literally "i saw a black guy running down tbe street"
quote:This gives rise to the question as to how Cletus Sr. recognized the "suspect from the break-ins."
(McMichael the Elder) stated that he was in his front yard and saw the suspect from the break-ins "hauling arse" down Satilla Drive toward Burford Drive.
quote:Apparently, Cletus was not yet aware of the video when he spun this yarn.
(Cletus Sr.) stated that they pulled up beside the male and shouted stop ... at which time (Cletus Jr.) exited the truck with the shotgun. (Cletus Sr.) stated the unidentified male began to violently attack (Cletus Jr.) ....
Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:56 am to Azkiger
Here it is
About the 1 minute mark. A neighbor spotted him and once he noticed he took off.
Its fast forward but you can see a time stamp. He runs past a few houses in the matter of seconds.
About the 1 minute mark. A neighbor spotted him and once he noticed he took off.
Its fast forward but you can see a time stamp. He runs past a few houses in the matter of seconds.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 10:59 am to Azkiger
quote:I appreciate your effort.
Azkiger
That first clip does not provide much useful data, but I do hope you can find the longer one.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 11:06 am to AggieHank86
quote:You found a longer one at about the same time that I did so. Thanks.
Azkiger
Are we thinking that the guy in the yard across the street was McMichael? He looks much thinner.
Did you notice how much the video playback accelerated from the time that Arbery left the front door (13:38) until he had reached a point one house down the street (13:48)? The time stamp changed by ten seconds in about 3/4 of a second.
Crossing one yard in about ten seconds seems consistent with a leisurely jogging pace, but it looks almost like someone wanted to make it appear that he was running much faster than was actually the case.
This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 11:14 am
Posted on 2/25/21 at 11:12 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Are we thinking that the guy in the yard across the street was McMichael? He looks much thinner.
No, that neighbor didn't persue (smart) and just called the cops. I want to say the McMichaels were two or three houses down on the same side as the house under construction and got into their trucks to chase 30 seconds or so once Arbery ran past.
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